Sold to Black and Decker.... - Page 2 - Snowblower Forum : Snow Blower Forums
 4Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 07:42 PM
Senior Member
 
micah68kj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: State of confusion. But mostly in S. C. Pa.
Posts: 3,962
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 67
Thanks (Received): 192
Likes (Given): 124
Likes (Received): 528
Quote:
Originally Posted by detdrbuzzard View Post
so if B&D buys the craftsmans line will B&D replace free of charge all the tools sold before the buyout
William, I honestly don't believe b&d will honor anything. They're junk.
pearlfinish likes this.

Joe


Toro 5/21
Ariens 5/22 ss
Ariens Sno Tek 7/24
Old green plastic snow shovel
Old quarry shovel for ice.
micah68kj is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 07:56 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: nova scotia-south shore - ave annual snowfall 199.4 cm ( 78.5 ")
Posts: 1,376
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 28
Thanks (Received): 103
Likes (Given): 167
Likes (Received): 324
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by micah68kj View Post
Sears are Murray products. Below MTD.
theres a basement.....under the basement ?
43128 and pearlfinish like this.

24 " 1967? Ariens Sno thro
28 " Ariens Sno Tek
Toro CCR ss
1966 Gravely LI Walk behind with dog eater

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
nwcove is online now  
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 3 Likes, 0 Dislikes
Likes Hanky, tdipaul, Tomatillo liked this post
post #13 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 08:52 PM
Member
 
DriverRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Glastonbury, CT
Posts: 74
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 0
Thanks (Received): 2
Likes (Given): 0
Likes (Received): 7
They never got me as a customer 40 yrs ago when Sears would not honor any major credit card only their own.

On the few occasions my browser clicked on Sears their website was a total disaster to navigate.

2015 Simplicity P1728e 420cc modified for 21.00TP
1963 Snowbird S263
1962 Snowbird S225

Last edited by DriverRider; 01-05-2017 at 09:15 PM.
DriverRider is online now  
post #14 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 09:01 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 171
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 21
Thanks (Received): 22
Likes (Given): 48
Likes (Received): 57
for at least 2 decades these companies have been milking the brand name for all its worth

Wonder how much farther down B&D will take it

Toro Snowmaster 824 QXE
Toro Super Recycler 20381
Husqvarna 150BT
Husqvarna 223L
ETQ TG72K12 7250/8250
Stihl 009
tdipaul is online now  
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 1 Likes, 0 Dislikes
Likes Hanky liked this post
post #15 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 09:21 PM
Senior Member
 
Cardo111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: The Lower Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 687
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 40
Thanks (Received): 86
Likes (Given): 42
Likes (Received): 93
A shame what happened to Sears over the years do to poor management and not keeping up with the increased competition from the big boxes. Sears was once the Amazon of its time. There are houses in the county I live in that were ordered from the Sears catalog in a quaint local river town. The local store built in 1969 is now always empty when I go there. In the 90's their auto center had lines out the door for hours, people were buying Die Hard batteries and tires, now you would wait for 2 hours for a tire rotation because there are hardly any employees do to lack of business.

At the local mall where Sears is they sold their building to Simon properties and now rent from them. An employee there who I have known for years told me they are likely going to start renting out the lower level of the store. Unfortunately they are on their way out. I would hope that the Craftsman hand tool warranty would still be honored by B&D and a minimal fee if any charged for replacement.

Ariens Platinum 24 SHO w/369cc carbureted LCT motor


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Cardo111; 01-06-2017 at 07:00 AM.
Cardo111 is offline  
post #16 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 09:25 PM
Member
 
Blosumsno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Southeastern Pa.
Posts: 59
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 0
Thanks (Received): 2
Likes (Given): 0
Likes (Received): 2
I think Briggs & Stratton took over Murray, at least the name. I was looking for parts for my old AMF made Dynamark tractor and the part numbers were changed to Murray numbers which I then found crossed referenced to B&S, though my memory could be failing me.

2003 Snapper I55224
2016 Toro Snowmaster 724QXE
Blosumsno is offline  
post #17 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 09:32 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Hampden, MA
Posts: 116
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 23
Thanks (Received): 11
Likes (Given): 24
Likes (Received): 17
A Step Up

Personally, I think the sale of Craftsman will be good for the brand.

Sears has been hemorrhaging for years, which has devalued Craftsman. Tool quality has declined, warranty support is weak - unless you buy the extended warranty, and (in my area at least), Sears stores look awful - dirty, poorly-stocked, and run-down.

The B&D buyout will give Craftsman a new lease on life.

B&D doesn't make terrible tools - just cheap ones, with corresponding low quality. But, they also manufacture Bostitch, DeWalt and Husky, among others. They know plenty about tools.

I doubt B&D wants to turn Craftsman into another B&D. Makes no sense. They'll position Craftsman higher in the market, and support that position with better marketing, merchandising, inventory, warranty support and reliability.

Soon, Craftsman's distribution will expand. More volume means lower costs, better margins, and money for re-investment.

Craftsman won't regain the luster of it's glory years. But, it could again become a successful, well-respected brand.
Strato is offline  
post #18 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 09:40 PM
Senior Member
 
JD in NJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 100
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 5
Thanks (Received): 6
Likes (Given): 30
Likes (Received): 13
Well, Strato, that's an optimistic viewpoint. It would be nice if you're right. I've got a lot of craftsman hand tools I'd like to see supported going forward.
JD in NJ is online now  
post #19 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 11:26 PM
Super Moderator
 
sscotsman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Western NY, USA
Posts: 2,644
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 34
Thanks (Received): 208
Likes (Given): 74
Likes (Received): 383
Quote:
Originally Posted by micah68kj View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by nwcove View Post
jmo...but it wont much matter...mtd made sub par machines now.
Sears are Murray products. Below MTD.
I'm sure some Craftsman snowblowers were once made by Murray, but not for a decade at least.
For the past 10 years or so, most of the Craftsman snowblowers sold in US Sears stores are made by MTD, and most Canadian Craftsmans are made by Husquvarna.

Scot
sscotsman is online now  
post #20 of 31 Old 01-05-2017, 11:42 PM
Senior Member
 
orangputeh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: lake tahoe
Posts: 105
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 35
Thanks (Received): 1
Likes (Given): 21
Likes (Received): 9
Garage
Just like a lot of you are saying, it is a real shame what has happened to sears and craftsman. craftsman is about all I own. I was fortunate to buy most of them years ago when they were still made in the USA.

Now the only time I buy craftsman tools is from garage sales if they are stamped USA. Recently acguired a boatload of tools and boxes that were 60 and 70 years old. All made in the USA and almost in perfect condition.

Craftsman is just going to degenerate to a glorified Stanley.

What tools can we get now? I am not a professional and can not justify buying snap on or mac. So what now , brown cow?

what goes around comes around
orangputeh is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Snowblower Forum : Snow Blower Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome