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and another one, "shoeless" honda

Seeing the theme for today being "shoeless" honda, this one hurts a bit more as the machine is only 2 years old and is the top of the line 1332 . Check out the auger housing side, the two skid mounting holes are grounded out due to wear.

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wait a minute.... Why is Honda selling them without skids?
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wait a minute.... Why is Honda selling them without skids?
The blower comes with rear mounted skids, a safer alternative is the side mounted heavy duty skids BUT I think in this case the owner has been using the blower with the height adjustment peddle in low position in which case the buckets pivots/bites into the pavement.
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I know it's easy to criticize the clueless owners of these machines, but I think I lot of the blame has to go to Honda. They design a machine that can be tipped down toward to push the front of the machine toward the pavement with significant force and it ships with rear mounted skids that don't protect the auger. It's a pretty poor design choice.
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I know it's easy to criticize the clueless owners of these machines, but I think I lot of the blame has to go to Honda. They design a machine that can be tipped down toward to push the front of the machine toward the pavement with significant force and it ships with rear mounted skids that don't protect the auger. It's a pretty poor design choice.

Indeed, the pivot down position is not necessary and can only lead to situations/wear as above. At the same time its also necessary for the owners to glance over the owners manual a couple of times before using any machine. For instance here is an owner who has been using his machine as it had fixed speed gears/friction disk. I pointed it out to him as to how the HST can be used to adjust speed on the fly.



I can only imagine warranty claim issues that are tough to resolve due to operator error.
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I know it's easy to criticize the clueless owners of these machines, but I think I lot of the blame has to go to Honda. They design a machine that can be tipped down toward to push the front of the machine toward the pavement with significant force and it ships with rear mounted skids that don't protect the auger. It's a pretty poor design choice.
I'm inclined to agree with the poor design. There are lots of blowers out there that have been used when improperly adjusted but the Honda blowers seem to have the lion's share of really bad damage to where the whole bucket needs replaced. That, and not too many owners seem to read their manuals?

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My biggest issue with this whole situation is that Honda knows that the heavier duty side skids would avoid this situation and no one would have to go through it. They install shoes in the back of the housing, they give you the option to install them or the heavier duty ones on the side, why leave to chance? Why not just throw those heavier skids on the machine from the factory? I am sure they only cost them $5~10 bucks to make, why not eliminate the shoes from the back and just put them on the side?

I can understand cost cutting when it comes to cheap machines but lets be honest, these machines are not budget/cheap by any means, take the $10 hit in your profit and pass the machines onto the owners with heavier skids on the side.
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why not eliminate the shoes from the back and just put them on the side?
Or even if there are some users who want just the rear shoe - let the people who know what they're doing set theirs up that way. The default should be with a front shoe that offers reasonable auger protection.
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My biggest issue with this whole situation is that Honda knows that the heavier duty side skids would avoid this situation and no one would have to go through it. They install shoes in the back of the housing, they give you the option to install them or the heavier duty ones on the side, why leave to chance? Why not just throw those heavier skids on the machine from the factory? I am sure they only cost them $5~10 bucks to make, why not eliminate the shoes from the back and just put them on the side?

I can understand cost cutting when it comes to cheap machines but lets be honest, these machines are not budget/cheap by any means, take the $10 hit in your profit and pass the machines onto the owners with heavier skids on the side.
IMHO, the design is not the problem but it is an operator/user error.
Honda snowblowers get used in several different environments where the tracked machines may need to be put on scrape mode for deep hard packed snow (here is where the design will shine, but having side skids it likely won't work), but it'll have to be properly adjusted.
Yamaha has the same exact design and they do not even offer side skids.
There are several other manufactures of larger models with rear skids design.
The idea is to have the skids right behind the scraper bar/pivot point for scraping (kind of like skids on a plow).

Now on a wheeled machine, yes, they should have side skids instead of rears.

Unfortunately a lot of snowblowers owners don't know, don't understand or don't care for adjusting the skids and scraper bar properly (if we spend what we spend buying them, we should read their operators manual. Unfortunately the same happens in many other areas and I am guilty of not reading manuals as well).
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