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HS 828 won't stay running

not mine but a friends. she used it for the last storm and it worked fine until she out it out of fuel. put old fuel from last summer, cause she said that was all she had. it started but wouldn't keep running.

forward nexr day.

i suspected clogged carb. put fresh gas in , left cap off in case of a vent problem. won't start. nor even a little unless I spray start fluid but that is all it burns.

took off sentiment cup and bottom had a bunch of crud. same with float bowl. turned gas on and it flows out.

tried spraying carb cleaner up jet a couple times. put it all together.still won't go.

suspected clogged jet so tried to take that out and it WON"T BUDGE.

i'm gonna have to get that jet out as the next step but was wondering what else to check before I take carb off and all apart. It has spark.

the bowl fills up but it is not getting gas to burn. i'm thinking dirt clogged up carb somewhere when she let it run out. don't know if fuel filter is clogged.

this was attempted during a blizzard outside. she has no garage and i won't be able to transport to my garage until spring the way this weather is going.

any suggestions?

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It is clearly a fuel issue and I agree on the fact that the carb may be clogged. I think the best thing to do would be removing the carb and clean it up. Also flush the tank and the fuel lines as it may happen again.
As for removing the jets, the best advice I can give you is make sure that the screwdriver that is used to remove them has a nice fit to avoid stripping it.
When I clean them I don't remove the jets as I use an ultrasonic cleaner
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Thanks. that is what I was thinking too . I just wanted to cover all the bases.

I asked her when the last time she had it serviced and she said I don't know 2-3 years which probably meant more like 5 or more.

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Then, it kind of was about time for a service.
If you need any technical info on it, I have a Service Manual for them (it is at work now, so I'll be able to look at it tomorrow). Feel free to PM me if needed.
I could also be bad fuel, you can try draining it and putting known fresh fuel (as the fuel that is in may be very old). We've had carbureted cars that would not run on old fuel, but run very well when fresh fuel was added.
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Here is a checklist for some GX carbs. If you can read this file, it's pretty good.

I had a time getting the main nozzle out of my 828. Had to tap lightly on a wooden board before it would drop down to where I could grab it.

Cleaned the ports out with a welding torch tip cleaner. Worked great.


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Then, it kind of was about time for a service.
If you need any technical info on it, I have a Service Manual for them (it is at work now, so I'll be able to look at it tomorrow). Feel free to PM me if needed.
I could also be bad fuel, you can try draining it and putting known fresh fuel (as the fuel that is in may be very old). We've had carbureted cars that would not run on old fuel, but run very well when fresh fuel was added.
Thanks everyone. I was trying to troubleshoot during a near blizzard a few days ago. tomorrow will be clear. first thing will be check and clean plug and maybe replace. then drain gas and put fresh in.

gonna check choke for proper operation. clean the jet with carb wire or attempt to remove jet and clean . I really don;t want to remove as this is outside on a deck down about 15-20 steps from the drive. only used for deck that she cleans snow for the dogs. I don't know how I would get it up the steps for my garage.

anyway, going to try everything I know that has worked in the past to get it running. A full service would be difficult in these conditions.

edit. I have the honda factory service manual . troubleshooting etc. just wanted to come here and hear some possible suggestions . thanks.

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it's funny. when i am working on my own blower I am relaxed and usually fix it OK. but when i am working on a friends' blower it seems like there is more pressure to get it right and i make more mistakes or overlook something obvious.

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got it running. fresh gas, new plug , and cleaned out carb.

thanks everyone.

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That's great.....!
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That's great.....!
spoke too soon.

next day lady said it started right up and ran it for an hour and let it run OUT of gas again.

now it won't start again. what is the freaking problem? I thought i fixed it. started it yesterday and ran for 20-30 minutes with fresh gas. stopped it and started it at least a dozen times.

I told her specifically not to let it run out of gas because this was what started the whole problem in first place. then she does exactly that.

what is it with running out of gas and then not restarting after putting new gas in it again???

I asked her. Gas on? yes Key on ? yes . I told her she doesn't have to choke it when the motor is hot. maybe she did that. could that have caused it to flood??

then what?

I told her to let it set overnight and try again tomorrow.

what is that saying ? no GOOD deed goes unpunished?

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