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snow blower won't start when it is cold outside

I have an Ariens Deluxe 24 with an AX254 engine from LCT with a Huayi carb. The problem I am having is that when it starts getting colder outside (about 20 deg. F.) it won't start. I have had this problem since I bought the unit new two years ago. I took it back to the dealer once and they said they found nothing wrong, but they stored it in there some what heated garage. My thought is that one of the jets could be under sized or partially plugged. I could not find any air/fuel adjustments on the carb. Has anybody else had this problem or thoughts about how to troubleshoot it.

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What starting procedure are you using ? I find that although it is recommended that you use 3 pumps of the primer, I usually do 5 or 6. Also, make sure that you cover the hole in the primer bulb with a bare thumb, not with a glove. Possible the tubing from the primer bulb to the carb came disconnected, or split. Finally, do you have fresh gas ? That is also important in getting a quick start. What if you try the electric start - do you still have an issue ? It is important to be able to pull-start just in case you run out of gas while far from electricity.

Better get moving on this project - warm weather is approaching fast.

Finally, sucks that the service shot blew you off without a repair. Doesn't sound like a quality shop.

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First thing is if you are turning the choke correctly for a cold start (closed) and you're primer is working. You can pull off the primer line at the carb from under the cover and put your thumb over the end, push the primer bulb and you should feel resistance. If you hear air escape, the line may be rotted or cracked and won't allow the carb to pressurize some fuel up to the carb throat.

If it's running fine once it gets going, I wouldn't mess with the carb.
I would try swapping your stock Torch plug for an NGK BPR6ES if it hasn't already been done. It may be the source of your hard/no cold starts. ( I would replace the Torch plug even if you find another issue is the cause).

If you do have a surge or poor running when it does start regardless of temp, a simple carb clean may be needed.
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Doubt if the Torch plug has anything to do with it, I understand the apprehension with an unknown sparkplug like a Torch but believe or not a Torch sparkplug lasted 10 years of Central New York snows in a Powermore engine before I bought my Cub Cadet and changed it. At any rate here's a cross reference chart Torch to NGK.
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Doubt if the Torch plug has anything to do with it, I understand the apprehension with an unknown sparkplug like a Torch but believe or not a Torch sparkplug lasted 10 years of Central New York snows in a Powermore engine before I bought my Cub Cadet and changed it. At any rate here's a cross reference chart Torch to NGK.
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Could you post a vid of this problem that is presenting itself to the masses here?????? anyhoo, ALOHA from the Paradise City.

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I have an Ariens Deluxe 24 with an AX254 engine from LCT with a Huayi carb. The problem I am having is that when it starts getting colder outside (about 20 deg. F.) it won't start. I have had this problem since I bought the unit new two years ago. I took it back to the dealer once and they said they found nothing wrong, but they stored it in there some what heated garage. My thought is that one of the jets could be under sized or partially plugged. I could not find any air/fuel adjustments on the carb. Has anybody else had this problem or thoughts about how to troubleshoot it.

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It's funny, my Ariens Platinum was hard starting new when it was cold outside as well. I would semi joke with my wife about a snowblower that didn't like the cold. Recently I decided to run Seafoam through it since I've seen it talked about on here so many times. It's never started as easy as it does now, two primer bulb presses and one pull of the rope. I don't know what was in it but the Seafoam took care of it.
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Thanks for the tip. I heard that Seafoam was some good stuff. I think I will try it when I get some time. Not expecting much cold weather hear in Wisconsin any time soon.
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The easiest way is to run a fuel carb cleaner through the carb. The best way and to be sure, remove, disassemble, soak, sit in solution for a bit, submerge in water as a wash, blow out, use a torch tip cleaner, blow out, reassemble.

Check to make sure you have good compression when the engine is cold. Compression is higher when warmed as parts expand. Maybe the intake valve is leaking a bit and not drawing in the fuel.

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I'd check the cheap stuff first. If it's only not starting really cold, but runs fine otherwise you need not be fussing with the carb, IMO. Save $7 for the Sea Foam and check your primer line first.
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