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Broken Toro 421 for sale - is it worth it?

Found this on Craigslist: https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/grd/5999513677.html

I'm on a budget and rent - when I buy a place, I'll get a really nice machine. Till then, landlord keeps the rent low as long as I shovel and I can't stand my single stage any longer. Found this Toro 421 and was wondering if it's worth buying off the guy? He says it doesn't start, which is the obvious concern. If it's a gummy carb or a spark plug, I found a great deal. If it's a cracked block or broken piston, I'm an idiot.

I'm going to look at it, but is there anything I should look for when checking this machine over? Any tests I can do on site to see if it's worth fixing up?

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A cracked block will be leaking oil all over the place. pull it over without the plug wire on it to see if there any compression or funny noises coming from that general area. more than likely needs a new plug and carb cleaning. yank on the augers to see if there is a lot of play in the front end. those are soild tires so you will never get a flat out in the middle of no man's land. check it out have a good looksee at it. and offer him a 50 spot for it that is if you take a shine to it. anyhoo, ALOHA from the Paradise City.

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Check the oil. If that's fine pull the spark plug and shoot a bit of starting fluid into it and put the plug back. I'm not sure if that has a drive disk but tip it forward and look underneath. Go for it if all checks out.
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What I always do is bring a fresh plug and starting fluid, carb could be missing and it will fire for a few secs on fluid, that will tell you if it will run. And of course the plug because well most non runners have bad plugs
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These are good tips, I'll pick up some starting fluid and a plug. Are the solid wheels better than air tires? Looks like I'd have a hard time finding replacements so I will be checking that out.
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If it looks good and the engine has compression and spark it would be hard to go wrong at that price. Rather than starting fluid which is extremely hard on aluminum pistons and cylinders, squirt some fresh gas into the spark plug hole. If it fires you have found the problem. It will be a little difficult to check the drive without running the machine or removing the bottom cover which the seller is not likely to permit.
As was mentioned the tires will never go flat but provide marginal traction. You could install chains but the machine will shake your fillings loose on a hard surface.
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If it looks good and the engine has compression and spark it would be hard to go wrong at that price. Rather than starting fluid which is extremely hard on aluminum pistons and cylinders, squirt some fresh gas into the spark plug hole. If it fires you have found the problem. It will be a little difficult to check the drive without running the machine or removing the bottom cover which the seller is not likely to permit.
As was mentioned the tires will never go flat but provide marginal traction. You could install chains but the machine will shake your fillings loose on a hard surface.
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!! I am not the only one that thinks using starting fluid is a bad idea. I have seen it blow holes in pistons. MAHALO for speaking up on that 1.

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FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!! I am not the only one that thinks using starting fluid is a bad idea. I have seen it blow holes in pistons. MAHALO for speaking up on that 1.
I'm actually glad I am finding this out now, as I've never had to use starting fluid before. Better the internet than on my car

Have found I can use WD40 as a starting fluid - is this also acceptable? And where do I spray it - air intake or into the spark plug hole?
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I'm actually glad I am finding this out now, as I've never had to use starting fluid before. Better the internet than on my car

Have found I can use WD40 as a starting fluid - is this also acceptable? And where do I spray it - air intake or into the spark plug hole?
Can't say that I have ever heard of that 1 before. I have heard of it being used to check for vaccum leaks around the carb.

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