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Ariens Deluxe 30 First Oil Change

I got a Ariens 30 Deluxe this year. Went to go do the first oil change after 5-10 hours of use and for the life of me cannot figure out how I am supposed to get the drain cap off the drain tube. The tube is far too short to get any wrench or vice grip on to hold while I twist the drain cap off. I figure I can just twist off the whole tube out of the engine block but would prefer not to do that. Anyone have any ideas on how to get this cap off? Pictures of the oil tube and cap below also a link to the model in question. Thanks.


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Looks like you're trying to use the flat area on the tube. Forget about that and move closer to the drain cap. Looks like you can get vicegrips on that with the jaws pointing towards the frame. If needed, the "needle nose vicegrips" might slide under the tube with their other jaw on top of the tube to hold the tube securely, then put a wrench on the cap.

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Can you put a screwdriver under the pipe and raise it a little to allow you to unscrew the cap?

What I would do, unscrew the whole tube and replace it with a longer one to avoid this problem again.
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You can get those tubes from a decent hardware or plumbing supply place. Bring the old one with you to make sure you get the right threads. I think the newer engines use some metric version and you don't want to try and stick an NPT thread in a metric hole in the block.

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Very poor design by mfgs. Sounds like the engine and snowblower mfgs. never spoke to each other until the final assembly.
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My 926LE is very similar. Since I usually change the oil at the end of a season (fuel tank is empty), I just tilt the whole unit back and attempt to loosen the drain cap. if the whole tube starts turning, so be it, the tilted back angle prevents too much of a mess from the oil coming right out of the block vs the drain tube.

I think one could adapt something like the Briggs quick change oil setups (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Briggs-St...401K/205448589), but Ive never bothered.

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Keep in mind that while you want to drain for the first few changes to get break in wear particles out. After that I would use a vaccum oil changer that I use on our inboard boat and most of my 4 stroke equipment. Fast and no mess.

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Looks like you're trying to use the flat area on the tube. Forget about that and move closer to the drain cap. Looks like you can get vicegrips on that with the jaws pointing towards the frame. If needed, the "needle nose vicegrips" might slide under the tube with their other jaw on top of the tube to hold the tube securely, then put a wrench on the cap.
I agree. My oil drain tube has the flats in the same inaccessible place. I used a locking pliers to hold the tube and a wrench to remove the cap. After the first oil change I put a small O ring down inside the cap which seals it to the tube end with low torque required. No leaks in 3 years and cap is easy to remove and replace without a locking pliers now.

Lifting the bucket a little will help remove more old oil. Easy no mess oil changes.

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Very poor design by mfgs. Sounds like the engine and snowblower mfgs. never spoke to each other until the final assembly.
I very highly doubt Ariens has much to say about the engine other than where they want their decals and what shaft size they need. The rest of the "features" are standard to reduce cost, it wouldn't be possible to foresee every installation issue that the end manufacturer has and it's their responsibility to design around it. LCT supplies a "package" and Ariens fits that package on their frame.
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Can you put a screwdriver under the pipe and raise it a little to allow you to unscrew the cap?

What I would do, unscrew the whole tube and replace it with a longer one to avoid this problem again.
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