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Question Auto-Turn thought....

Ok. I'm still 60/40 (against/for) on the auto-turn. So I've been thinking about it, how it works and go back and look at the ARIENS video with how it works.

If you watch the video you'll see the gears ride over each other when the spring inside the mechanism disengages them during a turn. I started a chat with Ariens tech support about the teeth wearing in the long run since they're passing over each other and not really fully coming out of mesh and freewheeling. 'Tyler' said they won't wear because the spring kicks them out. Partially true I guess.

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At about 1:12 in the video they start to show how it works. At 1:33 the video is so clear showing the teeth chattering over each other it's not even funny.

So, anyone else out there think that over time this could become an issue? Typically when metal teeth pass over each other over time they become rounded and grip less and thus slip more.

Who knows, maybe Ariens has some special steel in there that takes forever to wear? Rearden Metal??

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If it ever wears out I'll put back in the ATC in which I took out to put the Auto-Turn in
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doesnt that auto turn assy have oil inside it?? i think it does...no not in the cutaway on the video

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According to Ariens, when I asked them during a phone conversation with a tech, they said it doesn't.
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doesnt that auto turn assy have oil inside it?? i think it does...no not in the cutaway on the video
Well, that would certainly make a difference for sure and makes sense. 'Tyler' didn't elude to that. Hopefully it does. Actually it would have to or else they would be blowing out all over on the commercial machines.

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According to Ariens, when I asked them during a phone conversation with a tech, they said it doesn't.
Hmmm....not good. Maybe at least greased?

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Supposed to be wet sump for the auto turn, not so for the ATC though.

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Suopposed to be wet sump for the auto turn, not so for the ATC though.
Contact Ariens and ask them...maybe you'll get a different answer than I did...lol He told me straight blank, no wet sump.
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Contact Ariens and ask them...maybe you'll get a different answer than I did...lol He told me straight blank, no wet sump.
Wow, that would be B A D. Time to take one apart!!! Who volunteers!

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Ok. I'm still 60/40 (against/for) on the auto-turn. So I've been thinking about it, how it works and go back and look at the ARIENS video with how it works.

If you watch the video you'll see the gears ride over each other when the spring inside the mechanism disengages them during a turn. I started a chat with Ariens tech support about the teeth wearing in the long run since they're passing over each other and not really fully coming out of mesh and freewheeling. 'Tyler' said they won't wear because the spring kicks them out. Partially true I guess.

Here's the vid:

Ariens Auto Turn - YouTube

At about 1:12 in the video they start to show how it works. At 1:33 the video is so clear showing the teeth chattering over each other it's not even funny.

So, anyone else out there think that over time this could become an issue? Typically when metal teeth pass over each other over time they become rounded and grip less and thus slip more.

Who knows, maybe Ariens has some special steel in there that takes forever to wear? Rearden Metal??
You need to think about the alternative. Lets say you could have any axle you would ask for.

What would that be?

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