Belt running off Attachment Idler Pulley - Snowblower Forum : Snow Blower Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 20 Old 01-30-2019, 03:53 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Cutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Regina,Saskatchewan,Canada
Posts: 263
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 68
Thanks (Received): 10
Likes (Given): 97
Likes (Received): 110
Garage
Belt running off Attachment Idler Pulley

I hope some of you can offer some advice.
After blowing snow on the weekend, it seemed like my blower was making a bit of a strange noise, and it seemed to vibrate a bit more than usual. I ziptied the auger handle and checked the augers running. The gearbox has a bit of a wobble ( not sure if that's normal), and when running the unit with the belt cover off, I noticed the auger belt closest to the engine block was running about 1/8 off the rear of the idler pulley. Is this pulley adjustable? is this a problem? It an Ariens 921037 that I bought from a JD dealership who used it for demos,etc. It has warranty on it, even though it was used but never sold.

Life is short, so if you don't have the strength to laugh at yourself,
call me.....I'll laugh at you!
2014 Ariens Deluxe 28 with 291 CC Engine
2011 John Deere JS36 Self Propelled Mower
Too many Craftsman Mechanic/Yard tools to mention
Cutter is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 20 Old 01-30-2019, 04:12 PM
Senior Member
 
JLawrence08648's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Lawrenceville NJ
Posts: 2,124
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 89
Thanks (Received): 175
Likes (Given): 68
Likes (Received): 406
Garage
Choice - Bring it back to the dealer or move the belt back on, if it moves again bend the idler bracket a little to move the belt back on. You may be able to put washers behind the bracket moving the idler pulley outward. If it has an adjustment it would move the idler pulley only in and out, not back and forth.

1986 Ariens ST522, 5hp, 22"
1995 Murray Craftsman 10hp, 29" w. 12" impeller
A 1983 Real John Deere 10hp, 32" w. 12" impeller, 16" auger, 20" high front, cast iron gear box, chains
Noma 9hp, 27" w. 12" impeller
Noma 5hp, 24" w. 12" impeller, 20" high front
Gravely Convertible, 12hp Kohler cast iron, 26" width, 600 lbs of cast iron & steel, 2 speed impeller, 4 ground speeds
Dynamark 8hp, 26", 12" impeller, for sale
Several other 5hp, 8hp, several 2 cycle, all for sale
JLawrence08648 is online now  
post #3 of 20 Old 01-30-2019, 05:25 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Cutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Regina,Saskatchewan,Canada
Posts: 263
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 68
Thanks (Received): 10
Likes (Given): 97
Likes (Received): 110
Garage
Thanks for the help. I might try bending it a bit. It's probably ok, but I am picky about my stuff working the way they are meant to.
The washer is also a viable option too. If nothing else....always the dealership.

Life is short, so if you don't have the strength to laugh at yourself,
call me.....I'll laugh at you!
2014 Ariens Deluxe 28 with 291 CC Engine
2011 John Deere JS36 Self Propelled Mower
Too many Craftsman Mechanic/Yard tools to mention
Cutter is offline  
post #4 of 20 Old 01-30-2019, 05:51 PM
Senior Member
 
SimplicitySolid22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 530
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 51
Thanks (Received): 60
Likes (Given): 57
Likes (Received): 91
SimplicitySolid22 is offline  
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Thanks, 1 Likes, 0 Dislikes
Thanks Cutter thanked for this post
Likes Cutter liked this post
post #5 of 20 Old 02-01-2019, 04:49 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Cutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Regina,Saskatchewan,Canada
Posts: 263
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 68
Thanks (Received): 10
Likes (Given): 97
Likes (Received): 110
Garage
Picture to show my issue

I took this yesterday to illustrate my issue.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1-DAS_1219.JPG
Views:	66
Size:	262.5 KB
ID:	152731  

Life is short, so if you don't have the strength to laugh at yourself,
call me.....I'll laugh at you!
2014 Ariens Deluxe 28 with 291 CC Engine
2011 John Deere JS36 Self Propelled Mower
Too many Craftsman Mechanic/Yard tools to mention
Cutter is offline  
post #6 of 20 Old 02-01-2019, 08:54 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 116
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 1
Thanks (Received): 15
Likes (Given): 5
Likes (Received): 29
The idler pulley with the spring looks shined up on the side toward the engine. That would suggest to me that something is loose or bent. The back of the belt should ride in the center only.
It could be the angle that the picture was taken, but the double belts don't look to be riding on the idler right either. It almost looks like the bucket would be tilted forward.

Last edited by strtch5881; 02-01-2019 at 09:04 AM. Reason: Added content.
strtch5881 is offline  
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Thanks, 1 Likes, 0 Dislikes
Thanks Cutter thanked for this post
Likes Cutter liked this post
post #7 of 20 Old 02-01-2019, 09:36 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 116
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 1
Thanks (Received): 15
Likes (Given): 5
Likes (Received): 29
The more I think about it, the more I think that instead of a demo, it may have been a return. Where the bucket mounts to the frame may not be square and plumb.
strtch5881 is offline  
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Thanks, 1 Likes, 0 Dislikes
Thanks Cutter thanked for this post
Likes Cutter liked this post
post #8 of 20 Old 02-01-2019, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Cutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Regina,Saskatchewan,Canada
Posts: 263
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 68
Thanks (Received): 10
Likes (Given): 97
Likes (Received): 110
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by strtch5881 View Post
The more I think about it, the more I think that instead of a demo, it may have been a return. Where the bucket mounts to the frame may not be square and plumb.

Well, you may be right on both counts. It may well have been a return, probably will never know. I did buy it for about half price, so it was a good deal, and it does actually work well. I'm just a fussy guy. Today I took the bucket right off, checked the belts and the auger pulley. Also tightened the idler pulley and cleaned the inside. Checked the connection between the bucket and the tractor, and adjusted. Nothing made a difference, the belts are still
running just at the edge of the idler pulley. I left the beltcover off, started it and ziptied the auger handle down and noticed that the auger pulley on the bucket vibrated quite a bit. Bearing was tight. Maybe out of round pulley?

Life is short, so if you don't have the strength to laugh at yourself,
call me.....I'll laugh at you!
2014 Ariens Deluxe 28 with 291 CC Engine
2011 John Deere JS36 Self Propelled Mower
Too many Craftsman Mechanic/Yard tools to mention
Cutter is offline  
post #9 of 20 Old 02-01-2019, 07:32 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 116
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 1
Thanks (Received): 15
Likes (Given): 5
Likes (Received): 29
Possible pulley problem. At this point it could also be a bent shaft. Maybe it was dropped. You would need to check for runout with a dial indicator. When you had the bucket off, did you check both mating surfaces to see if they were flat and square?
strtch5881 is offline  
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Thanks, 1 Likes, 0 Dislikes
Thanks Cutter thanked for this post
Likes Cutter liked this post
post #10 of 20 Old 02-02-2019, 04:31 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Cutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Regina,Saskatchewan,Canada
Posts: 263
Post Thanks / Like
Thanks (Given): 68
Thanks (Received): 10
Likes (Given): 97
Likes (Received): 110
Garage
Yes, they seemed to be square. I am going to remove the bucket again this weekend, and have another look at the whole machine. The more I think about what you said about a return, the more I think you're right.

Life is short, so if you don't have the strength to laugh at yourself,
call me.....I'll laugh at you!
2014 Ariens Deluxe 28 with 291 CC Engine
2011 John Deere JS36 Self Propelled Mower
Too many Craftsman Mechanic/Yard tools to mention
Cutter is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Snowblower Forum : Snow Blower Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome