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autoturn and tracks

I have a 3 yo 28" Deluxe and really hate the autoturn. It beats me up, especially my wrists and thumbs.


I'm about to buy a Craftsman again - my previous one last 22 years and did a great job.


But before I do that I was wondering - my Ariens has tires. If I add the Ariens track kit (and anything new I get will have tracks) will that calm down the autoturn?


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Going to craftsman now I think would be a let down for you. An older deluxe with a solid axle or selectable differential would be better.IMO


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I have a 3 yo 28" Deluxe and really hate the autoturn. It beats me up, especially my wrists and thumbs.


I'm about to buy a Craftsman again - my previous one last 22 years and did a great job.


But before I do that I was wondering - my Ariens has tires. If I add the Ariens track kit (and anything new I get will have tracks) will that calm down the autoturn?


Thank you,
Dan

How come nobody answers? Must be a ton of people her who knows the answer. I have been wondering myself about the function of Autoturn With Rapidtrack. Most of the things I have read are negative. But most people have wheeled machines.

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AutoTurn works great with the plastic skid shoes from Ariens because they have almost no friction. The Ariens steel skid shoes have a lot of friction and don't work as well with AutoTurn. It is recommended that the bucket be aligned correctly for best AutoTurn performance; the procedure is in the sticky at beginning of this forum.

I have never used tracks since wheels perform better in my area. I did look for tracks in 2014 when Ariens used a small drive wheel for track propulsion. With the disc drive system the machine was very slow so my dealer did not recommend that approach. I think the track kit from Ariens incorporates that design flaw. The hydro drive version of the tracked Ariens does not have that slow speed flaw according to my dealer.

A few years ago the Rapidtrack was introduced and according to the few owners documenting here seems to work great. My dealer has many Rapidtrack machines in use and the feedback is very good. These are mainly Pro machines in commercial use. If Ariens has a Rapidtrack kit for wheeled machines (disc drive or hydro drive) then that would be a good option. Versatility of wheels with traction improvement of tracks, and you get bucket loading and transport options that are attractive.

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I don't get the impression that there are a ton of tracks users. And tracks with AutoTurn is an even smaller segment.

What skids are you using? A lot of people have reported better AutoTurn results after going to the Ariens poly skids. They are supposed to glide more smoothly than the metal skids, reducing the catching that can confuse AutoTurn. There are multiple threads about trying to improve AutoTurn performance, for better or worse (unfortunate that those threads are needed, but good that people have shared their experiences).

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If Ariens has a Rapidtrack kit for wheeled machines (disc drive or hydro drive) then that would be a good option. Versatility of wheels with traction improvement of tracks, and you get bucket loading and transport options that are attractive.

Forgive me if I've misunderstood, but I thought RapidTrak only provided "neutral" and bucket-held-down positions? I didn't think it could keep the bucket raised for easy clearing of grass, etc. Since it's a wheel at the front end, I didn't think it could hold the bucket up.

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I can't reply since my machine tracks one-handed with auto turn, the stock skids, and the scraper flush to the ground (as delivered) . . . . sorry . . . .
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Forgive me if I've misunderstood, but I thought RapidTrak only provided "neutral" and bucket-held-down positions? I didn't think it could keep the bucket raised for easy clearing of grass, etc. Since it's a wheel at the front end, I didn't think it could hold the bucket up.
In the videos I have watched on the Rapidtrack and the demo my dealer gave me on the Rapidtrack there are 3 positions: dig, neutral and transport. The transport raises the bucket off the ground so you don't have to press down on handlebars with much effort. One of the Rapidtrack owners here wanted a lower raised height than transport so he very neatly made two new notches for the bar. Very innovative for what his needs are. A very informative thread.

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My Hydro Pro 28 Rapidtrak works just fines with auto turn. OEM skids. It's by far the easiest in the wheeled position of the track. In the normal track down position it works quite well enough for me. The dig position is harder to turn, but works. In the dig position your're moving really slow to accomplish the dig. ie...scraping up car tracks. I have zero regrets about going with the track option last fall

I know nothing about track conversions from wheeled
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Can it hold the bucket up on its own, in Transport? Or, as Town was seemingly suggesting, do you need to push down on the handlebars as well, so that the length of the tracks gives you a stable height, keeping the bucket raised in Transport?

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