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Ariens with repositioned wheel shaft Vs non repositioned

Ariens repositioned the wheel shaft since 2016 I think. Models with grey metallic wheels have repositioned wheel shaft to reduce weight on the bucket. It was done because many complained about the Auto turn reaction. Do someone tried old models and newer ones with repositioned shaft and tell me if there's a big difference with Auto turn reaction ? My brother has an older SHO Platinum 30 and moved my newer SHO 30 model. He felt the bucket was light. As I had it in late spring, I couldn't tell him if it was problem with hard packed snow.
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Ariens repositioned the wheel shaft since 2016 I think. Models with grey metallic wheels have repositioned wheel shaft to reduce weight on the bucket. It was done because many complained about the Auto turn reaction. Do someone tried old models and newer ones with repositioned shaft and tell me if there's a big difference with Auto turn reaction ? My brother has an older SHO Platinum 30 and moved my newer SHO 30 model. He felt the bucket was light. As I had it in late spring, I couldn't tell him if it was problem with hard packed snow.
The drive axle was repositioned forward for the model year 2017, so machines built in the fall of 2016. @sscotsman has a page in his website that describes the changes in Ariens models by model year. Here is what he says in part for the 2017 model year:

"Update on the Auto-Turn situation:
Ariens first introduced Auto-Turn for the 2014 model year. For the first three model years there were issues with it's performance, then Ariens moved the axle position, which fixed the problem. From a snowblowerforum.com thread:

Generally it wasnt very good on the first-year models with Auto-Turn, which was 2014. People did have a lot of issues with it, with the machine being skittish and trying to turn when it shouldn't..it could be improved with different skids..then Ariens did move the axle to fix the problem.

Year 1 of Auto-Turn: 2014 model year, machines sold Autumn 2013 - original axle position.
Year 2 of Auto-Turn: 2015 model year, machines sold Autumn 2014 - original axle position.
Year 3 of Auto-Turn: 2016 model year, machines sold Autumn 2015 - original axle position.
Year 4 of Auto-Turn: 2017 model year, machines sold Autumn 2016 - new, corrected axle position.
Year 5 of Auto-Turn: 2018 model year, machines sold Autumn 2017 - new, corrected axle position."

People have commented that this change is a big success, especially with steel skid shoes.

You can find this information in a link titled "Page 9 modern Ariens snowblowers 2005 to today" in this site: https://scotlawrence.github.io/ariens/index.html

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As always, great informations. I went to see the 2013 pro 28. The B&S 420CC amaze me because it is really Smooooooth. No vibration at all at full throttle.
The 414 LCT is not a champion about vibration and noise. My motor has some vibration at full throttle and my brother's snowblower with an AX414 is doing the same thing. I read that B&S 420CC are smooth and they are really. I would say even more than a Honda GX390.
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I have the original location glad I do
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The 414 can be considered smooth. The GX390 smoother but the 420 is ultra smooth. You must try both to feel the difference. My 414 is also adjusted near 3800 RPM. Anyway, I would also like the 414 with better muffler. I remember my B&S 305 CC had a little add on end pipe going down. This made a good difference about noise with or without it. I 'll do a fitting like this to try if it do the job on the 414.

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The B&S 420 is fairly smooth for a big single cylinder, but it's not insanely smooth or anything. And at high RPM, especially under load, it's pretty loud. It does make great power though.
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my 414cc is quiter then both my 10 hp and 8 hp tech flatties also the oh358cc 13 hp
sounds like splitting hairs to me
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When you had a Honda motor, everything else is noisy
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No vibration through the handlebars on my engine at 3,925 rpm or any lower speed. No vibration when the 6 blade impeller is engaged driving at 1,447 rpm. I like the Ariens and the LCT engine. Tecumseh 8 hp and 11 hp are not as smooth. My only experience with Honda engines is a 4 hp OHC, a GC something, a long time ago. It was a terrible engine with no power compared to the 3.5 hp side valve B&S that it replaced. Never looked at Honda since. Someone posted a review of GC versus GX here a short time ago and the differences are negligible.

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Yes, Ariens moved the wheels forward to help the auto turn. Doing so made the machine too light in the front causing it to climb forcing Ariens to find another fix and indeed they did. They sell a weight kit that bolts onto the front of the thing.......new machines even have pre-drilled holes to accommodate the added weight.

I bought a 25# SS bar on Ebay which a I mounted onto the front of my 28 Pro. Seems to make things better. Nothing in my humble opinion can compare to true differential, one designed with seals to keep the melted snow out of it along with zerk fittings for lubrication
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