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Help Please. Brand new machine. Plugged charger into a (well hidden) connector with red/black wires; have to assume that's correct because instructions were not clear. Charged overnight, green. Put in non-ethanol gas, machine came with oil from factory. Manual says it doesn't matter what the throttle is set to, (didn't start regardless of setting). Turned starter to on position with key and didn't hear any clicking as I've seen in online videos. Used the pull and the electronic start and could hear the engine but didn't start. Feels like a disconnect between the Starter and battery?
Called Lowes and they are sending a new machine but I need to know if we've done this correctly. Many thanks for your advice.
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Sounds like there is something grounded … ???

Pull the plug or insert an inline spark tester to check for spark.

Regardless where you bought it, Ariens still covers it under warranty.

Receiving another one and following your same procedures may indeed give you the same results?

Did you put this together out of the box, or was it delivered to you all together as a rolling completely together?
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When you say you did not hear any clicking (when you turn the key), you should hear a short whine/whirring as the fuel pump builds up pressure. If you do not hear that, then the connector is not making contact or the battery is shot.
I had trouble making a good connection connection on mine. My bet is the connector is not pushed together enough.
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Yup, no noise is no fuel pump, and no pressure. Charger went green, so it would seem thr battery should be OK. As noted, make sure it's plugged back in tight, and check for lights on the ECU under the dash. Dark is a power problem. Light means thr ECU has power (and the fuel pump should, since I don't think the ECU has control of it).. Check for power at the fuel pump. If present, then the pump is bad, and if not, check the harness to the pump.

No pressure means no fuel from the injector, and no start. Likely as simple as an assembly error.
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Make sure your fuse is installed and good.
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One thing to add (I did this too) is when it is plugged back together, it is very easy to have the pins push back out of the plastic plug...it will lock but not make connection. Pull the plug apart, move the wire connectors back into the plastic plug and hold the wire with the plug tight when you push together.
99% sure this is your problem.

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Help Please. Brand new machine. Plugged charger into a (well hidden) connector with red/black wires; have to assume that's correct because instructions were not clear. Charged overnight, green. Put in non-ethanol gas, machine came with oil from factory. Manual says it doesn't matter what the throttle is set to, (didn't start regardless of setting). Turned starter to on position with key and didn't hear any clicking as I've seen in online videos. Used the pull and the electronic start and could hear the engine but didn't start. Feels like a disconnect between the Starter and battery?
Called Lowes and they are sending a new machine but I need to know if we've done this correctly. Many thanks for your advice.
KAD
You said the light is green. In the service manual it says it should be "a blinking green LED indicates the ECU processor is operating properly" Constant green indicates low voltage or battery needs replacing.

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I suspect that the green light they are referring to is the charge complete light on the charger...not the ECU...at least that is how I took it.
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