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Adding wheel lockout 924036

Iím updating a 524 with a new engine but this tractor does not have the wheel lockout.
To add the LO it appears all I need is the right side long shaft and the knob from a unit with the lockout?
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I haver a 10000 series with the lockout, and never once did I ever use it .. I never found a need to Ö. just sayin.
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I operate a 924039 with the left wheel unlocked unless we get a huge storm.
My feather keys are shot and the axle is worn on this scrap acquisition so I may as well upgrade the axle!
Any help would be appreciated!
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This will likely be a big and costly job.

Your 924036 doesn't have a differential and it's listed as using 3/4" ID axle bushings, 3 hole bushing carriers, and 3 lug wheels.

Most of the differential axle-equipped 924s I've seen use axles that has a 7/8" ID. Some models use 7/8" ID ball bearings (924050, for example) while others use 7/8" ID bushings with the same 3-hole bushing carriers (924026, for example) as yours.

So not only will you need to swap out the axle, you will need to pick up the 7/8" ID carriers and then bushings/bearings.

I'm not aware of any differential-equipped 924 axles that are 3/4".

This is coming from a guy who swapped in a differential-equipped axle from a 924050 (8hp, 4-lug wheels) into his 924040.

I would recommend finding a differential-equipped 924 that has either a blown engine and/or gearbox. My 924050 was $50 and it also came with 4-lug wheels with Snow Hogs.


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Thank you and you are correct!

The axle and knob are not terribly speedy, now Iíll look at bushings and carriers!
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I haver a 10000 series with the lockout, and never once did I ever use it .. I never found a need to Ö. just sayin.
Having had a 10000 for years in heavy snow country, with the diff and lock knob, it only got used a couple of times a season, but when it did, it was very valuable. Normal conditions were handles with the diff unlockedmfor ease of turning, but when we got ugly conditions, locking it was the key to getting through the heavy stuff.

(Ironically, when new, we didn't this it worked - the lock had so much paint on it that it would rotate OK, but not drop into the lock. Finallynfigured out to smack it in a few times, and then it locked by itself fine.)
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Having had a 10000 for years in heavy snow country, with the diff and lock knob, it only got used a couple of times a season, but when it did, it was very valuable. Normal conditions were handles with the diff unlockedmfor ease of turning, but when we got ugly conditions, locking it was the key to getting through the heavy stuff.

(Ironically, when new, we didn't this it worked - the lock had so much paint on it that it would rotate OK, but not drop into the lock. Finallynfigured out to smack it in a few times, and then it locked by itself fine.)
Mine is a different model #, but has a differential, and chains. Our driveway has an incline. As with tadawson, I usually keep the differential unlocked, but in bad/slippery storms, I need to lock it, and it makes a big difference in traction. I'm really glad I can lock them together.

bigredmf, just for understanding, what does your machine have now? A differential, just without the ability to lock the wheels together? Or is it the system where you can pull a pin on one wheel, to change from 2-wheel-drive (locked together), to 1-wheel-drive (one wheel free spinning, undriven).

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Funny that this topic comes up.... I'm searching online to do a similar swap. I already ran into the axle issue as well as the wheel difference, But I've got a couple older 924050 twin sticks, a couple later 924040's all with Locking Diff's so parts aren't necessarily a problem..

BUT the test subject I'm using is a real clean (Well mostly clean) ST(?) 1028, 924119 newer than all the others. It has a straight axle with slide on Fat Wheels. Machine was abandoned at my shop. The wheels are rust jacked to the axle. I've tried all the usual desperation methods to try and save the wheels/axles.....no luck. Tires are junk and I don't have any spare wheels or tires for this setup.

But I do have plenty of the locking diff's, axles and wheels. The 1028 uses 3 bolt, 2 piece flanges that straddle the tractor body. The older setups use 4 bolt covers that trap the bearing to the frame. Looks like all the holes are there in the tractor frame, for either setup, so I'm going to sacrifice the wheels and axle and swap over to the locking diff arrangement.

They are all 924 tractors. so it'll be a drop in replacement, Rite?? There will be no problems encountered, or extra parts to buy......ESP since it's a holiday....Week.....Hahahahahahahaahahahhahaaa

Well nothing ventured, nothing gained.....I'm going in....DEEP.!!!!!

Best case scenario, that I now have a clean 1028 with locking diff and Snow Hogs.....
Worst case scenario, that i now have TWO piles of Rubble....

Wish Me Luck.....Jay
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Mine is a different model #, but has a differential, and chains. Our driveway has an incline. As with tadawson, I usually keep the differential unlocked, but in bad/slippery storms, I need to lock it, and it makes a big difference in traction. I'm really glad I can lock them together.

bigredmf, just for understanding, what does your machine have now? A differential, just without the ability to lock the wheels together? Or is it the system where you can pull a pin on one wheel, to change from 2-wheel-drive (locked together), to 1-wheel-drive (one wheel free spinning, undriven).
Itís a straight locked 3/4Ē Axle.
Three bolt 6.00 wheels sporting 15Ē XTRACS!

Itís kind of silly to call these differentials!

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The 924040 does not have a diff, but the 924050 would.


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