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Ariens zero turn , need feedback

i am thinking about getting a 24 deluxe but i see a lot of posts about the zero turn not performing good....it seems people have trouble keeping the snowblower straight sometimes....so i wanted to ask users what is their experience. thanks
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i am thinking about getting a 24 deluxe but i see a lot of posts about the zero turn not performing good....it seems people have trouble keeping the snowblower straight sometimes....so i wanted to ask users what is their experience. thanks
I don't have one but... they appear to do fine on asphalt concrete and other hard surfaces.
The complaints are uneven surfaces ..gravel and such...when the machine snags up front the machine will turn as a result.
However since turning is so easy ...it is very easy to put it right back on course.
Get used to it they will tell you lol.




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I have the same differential in my DR snowblower as Ariens uses in it's "auto steer" and I think it works great. I have a gravel driveway and have no issues holding a straight line.
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I do have a long gravel driveway with a slight Hill at the end.
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i am thinking about getting a 24 deluxe but i see a lot of posts about the zero turn not performing good....it seems people have trouble keeping the snowblower straight sometimes....so i wanted to ask users what is their experience. thanks
The zero turn system on the Ariens models is called Auto-Turn. It was introduced on the 2014 models and was modified for the 2017 models to match the Pro models more forward axle position. This apparently improves the machines balance i.e. lighter bucket feel. Here is the evolution:

Year 1 of Auto-Turn: 2014 model year, machines sold Autumn 2013 - original axle position.
Year 2 of Auto-Turn: 2015 model year, machines sold Autumn 2014 - original axle position.
Year 3 of Auto-Turn: 2016 model year, machines sold Autumn 2015 - original axle position.
Year 4 of Auto-Turn: 2017 model year, machines sold Autumn 2016 - new, corrected axle position.
Year 5 of Auto-Turn: 2018 model year, machines sold Autumn 2017 - new, corrected axle position.

The Pro models seemingly had no problems with Auto-Turn self steering. For the other models those fitted with plastic skid shoes had few problems. The steel skid shoes had much higher friction rates and suffered more.

I had the plastic skid shoes from new and did not have any problems, and I am still using them with lots of use. I did try the stock steel skid shoes to see what all the complaints were about and they are noticeably high friction and do self steer more. The system is very reliable and so easy to use. When the Auto-Turn senses that you want to make a turn it releases drive from the both wheels and will not engage them until there is a change in speed of one wheel and then it locks up again, so turns must be completed under a consistent speed, or just release the drive clutch (as I do) and make your zero turn radius easily. Practice makes perfect.

So you should not have a problem with Auto-Turn if you buy any Pro model or any 2017 and up deluxe or platinum model.

Good luck.

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I own a 2018 Deluxe 28 with Auto Turn. I think it works very well. Most of the time, it behaves exactly like a solid axle machine. To "break loose" the Auto Turn, I have to push the bars by 15-20 degrees, and then Auto Turn will freewheel the inside wheel as long as I continue to turn. As soon as I cease turning for for maybe a second or two, the Auto Turn returns to "posi-track" and then continues as "posi track" until l initiate the next turn. Auto Turn really shines when you're turning a 180 degree turn, such as at the end of the driveway- no more skidding the tires, and it's all automatic without triggers or levers. It's total cool beans.

One thing to note, is that my D-28 doesn't follow a straight line quite like a solid axle machine. At times, it seems to wander a little and needs a little help to stay on a straight path. I think this is not caused by Auto Steer, but rather a function of the 28" bucket and also that the scraper bar is further from the axle than my past MTD built machines. I made my own plastic skid shoes with some UHMW slide rails fastened under the stock skid shoes.

You'll be impressed with the rest of the machine.

Hope this helps.

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I recently bought a Deluxe 24 and so far it seems to work great. I did however install the plastic skids as soon as I got home because of what I read on this site. I like the balance and I love the fact that I don't have to wrestle the thing on every turn like my old machine. The other thing that I have been playing with is the adjustment for the drive. When set as the manual says, it seems jumpy when I take off and the lowest setting was pretty fast. Now I have a lower low gear per say, little faster reverse and when moving over to my other driveway the highest setting is plenty fast. I have only got to use it for 3 snowfalls so time will tell.
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No problems at all on my 2019 model. Works perfectly and you should not hesitate getting one.
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I own a 2018 Deluxe 28 with Auto Turn. I think it works very well. Most of the time, it behaves exactly like a solid axle machine. To "break loose" the Auto Turn, I have to push the bars by 15-20 degrees, and then Auto Turn will freewheel the inside wheel as long as I continue to turn. As soon as I cease turning for for maybe a second or two, the Auto Turn returns to "posi-track" and then continues as "posi track" until l initiate the next turn. Auto Turn really shines when you're turning a 180 degree turn, such as at the end of the driveway- no more skidding the tires, and it's all automatic without triggers or levers. It's total cool beans.

One thing to note, is that my D-28 doesn't follow a straight line quite like a solid axle machine. At times, it seems to wander a little and needs a little help to stay on a straight path. I think this is not caused by Auto Steer, but rather a function of the 28" bucket and also that the scraper bar is further from the axle than my past MTD built machines. I made my own plastic skid shoes with some UHMW slide rails fastened under the stock skid shoes.

You'll be impressed with the rest of the machine.

Hope this helps.

I agree with Bazooka Joe here. I too have the 2014 model, and when it had the steel skid shoes on, I was wondering what I had bought for a snowblower. It was all over the driveway, jerking and lurching every which way. Once I read about guys on here using the Poly Shoes, I decided to try them, and couldn't be happier. The machine is still not perfect....like Joe says, you still have to pay attention to where it's going, as it still offers to lurch once in awhile. But with the steel shoes, I wouldn't have gotten within 3 feet of a vehicle, and now with the Ploy Shoes I go within 3 inches of my vehicles, without worry. And Like Joe says....you'll be impressed with the rest of the machine. My Ariens blows snow that my other Murray would never do.

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Put plastic skid shoes on it and it should work fine.

My solid axle snowblower even steered by itself once. The plastic skid shoes made a different. The metal skids had a lot of friction.
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