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Could you start the 120v 420cc Ariens with a portable battery bank?

One of the reasons I'm wavering on buying the big 32" Rapidtrak is the extension cord electric start. Think that a portable battery bank with 120v outlets would be able to start it? I'm not sure how many amps the blower pulls for the electric start, but there are some pretty hefty battery banks out there now ....

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Yes this is possible. I believe you would need to change the starter motor to a DC version and instal a battery. I’ve seen posts about other people doing this that you could search for.
Some past Ariens models had DC electric start, but they dropped that in favor of the AC starters. For many people, the AC is more appropriate, since they might only need to start it near their house, where they have AC power. If they shut it off away from their house, because the engine’s warm, it’s easy to start with the pull start. I’ve got a Pro Hydro RapidTrak 28 and I like the AC. Also, with DC you have to worry about trickle charging the battery over the summer.
But certainly for some users, the DC makes sense.
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@5280,

You can certainly do anything you want if you through enough money and time at it.

Even if you have no electricity in a storage area, you would probably have or could use a generator. As stated, a properly maintained machine should be no issue on a pull start, especially when it is warm.

I have electric start on 4 of my seven machines, and never use it, except once in a great while just to make the starter move so it does not seize up.
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Are you looking at the slightly older Briggs powered model or the new LCT powered model? The Briggs 420cc can be easily converted to 12v start with an onboard battery. I'm not sure if all of the necessary parts are available for the LCT 420cc.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear, I'm not talking about modifying anything or using DC. I'm wondering if I could use something like this to start the blower:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JCLF374/

A large battery bank with a 120v outlet. There are some decent ones designed to power electrics while camping.
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For what it's worth, my 420cc Briggs & Stratton almost always starts on the first pull, and definitely on the second, even after months of storage.

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Sorry if I wasn't clear, I'm not talking about modifying anything or using DC. I'm wondering if I could use something like this to start the blower:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JCLF374/

A large battery bank with a 120v outlet. There are some decent ones designed to power electrics while camping.
OK, I see what you're asking.

From the picture below of the starter on my Ariens 926060 (B&S version), it quotes 11 amps. At 120V that would be 1320 Watts. But the battery pack unit you're looking at is only 400 Watts, so that wouldn't cut it.

You're probably looking at the latest version of Ariens machine though, which would have an LCT engine instead of the B&S engine on mine. So you might look into the current draw of the 420cc LCT engine to get a more accurate amperage. Just multiply that current by 120V to get the wattage required for the battery pack.

Based on your username, are you in Denver?

I'm in Steamboat and am really using my machine a lot. These Hydro Pro RapidTrak machines are fantastic to use!

I hope that helps...
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Thanks, yes I'm in the Denver area. After thinking about this a lot, I'm guessing I won't often be shutting the engine off mid-way through the driveway... So this may be a silly concern after all, and it looks like the Ariens is really the best snowblower in the market.
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