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Platinum 30 Hand Warmers

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I am on the second year with my 2013 Platinum 30. It's only recently that I realized that my hand warmers are not working properly. I used my neighbors Deluxe 28, and his warmers are a LOT warmer than mine. So to confirm, I tried my other neighbor's Platinum 30, and my other neighbor's Amiens ?? (Deluxe 28 I think). Those 3 machines have hand warmers that get almost hot. Mine are barely warm. It's the first snowblower I've had with hand warmers so I just assumed they were fine. They are somewhat warm, so there is a connection. If they were not warm at all I would have realized there was something wrong. Any ideas why mine might not be working properly? Thank you.

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I would check all of the connections to make sure that they are tight, and rust free. Are both sides the same temperature ? It could also be a problem with diodes in your alternator. Is it too late to go back to the dealer, and let them fix/diagnose it ?
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Yes, both sides are same temp. Just barely warm. It's a year old, so I probably could take it back to the dealer, but that would be a PITA. I will check the connections as you suggest, and if that isn't the issue I will take it back to the dealer after the snow is gone (if still under warranty) and see what they have to say. Thanks.
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Hi all,
I am on the second year with my 2013 Platinum 30. It's only recently that I realized that my hand warmers are not working properly. I used my neighbors Deluxe 28, and his warmers are a LOT warmer than mine. So to confirm, I tried my other neighbor's Platinum 30, and my other neighbor's Amiens ?? (Deluxe 28 I think). Those 3 machines have hand warmers that get almost hot. Mine are barely warm. It's the first snowblower I've had with hand warmers so I just assumed they were fine. They are somewhat warm, so there is a connection. If they were not warm at all I would have realized there was something wrong. Any ideas why mine might not be working properly? Thank you.

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Check to make sure you have the correct headlight bulb. The bulb on that model is 20W. It is a special order bulb. If it were replaced with a higher wattage off-the-shelf bulb from a hardware store than you'll lose some juice to the grips. Also, check your operating RPM. This is unregulated power. If you're running on the low side RPM-wise your alternator will runny skinny on voltage. The engine is spec'd for 3600 +/- 100 RPM. Shoot for 3700 if you want a healthier dose of voltage. Which engine do you have? Check all the connections for sure.
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I would check all of the connections to make sure that they are tight, and rust free. Are both sides the same temperature ? It could also be a problem with diodes in your alternator. Is it too late to go back to the dealer, and let them fix/diagnose it ?
It's an AC alternator, no diodes.

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Hi all,
I am on the second year with my 2013 Platinum 30. It's only recently that I realized that my hand warmers are not working properly. I used my neighbors Deluxe 28, and his warmers are a LOT warmer than mine. So to confirm, I tried my other neighbor's Platinum 30, and my other neighbor's Amiens ?? (Deluxe 28 I think). Those 3 machines have hand warmers that get almost hot. Mine are barely warm. It's the first snowblower I've had with hand warmers so I just assumed they were fine. They are somewhat warm, so there is a connection. If they were not warm at all I would have realized there was something wrong. Any ideas why mine might not be working properly? Thank you.
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I have a brand new Platinum 24 with the same problem. I suspect Ariens put on the 20 watt grips instead of 30 watt grips.

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I have a brand new Platinum 24 with the same problem. I suspect Ariens put on the 20 watt grips instead of 30 watt grips.
Easy to check. Ohm's Law is Watts=Voltage * Voltage / Resistance

Assuming that you have 12 volts, then the resistance for the 30 watt grips should be about 5 ohms, and the the 20 watt grips would be about 7 ohms.
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Measure the voltage before the heaters to ground (heaters ON) and see if you do have 12+ volts with the engine near full throttle. That checks that the stator has the capacity to run them.
Then check after the heaters to ground. That will check the voltage drop of the ground connection. If I remember it should be .1 or .2 volts on the ground side. If you have a bad connection it will be robbing you of some of the current necessary for the grips to heat up and that would show up as a higher voltage reading.

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Easy to check. Ohm's Law is Watts=Voltage * Voltage / Resistance

Assuming that you have 12 volts, then the resistance for the 30 watt grips should be about 5 ohms, and the the 20 watt grips would be about 7 ohms.
Thanks, will need to wait until I can get back & measure it.
Thanks again, hadn't throught of doing this.

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Measure the voltage before the heaters to ground (heaters ON) and see if you do have 12+ volts with the engine near full throttle. That checks that the stator has the capacity to run them.
Then check after the heaters to ground. That will check the voltage drop of the ground connection. If I remember it should be .1 or .2 volts on the ground side. If you have a bad connection it will be robbing you of some of the current necessary for the grips to heat up and that would show up as a higher voltage reading.
Excellent suggestions, never thought of doing this. Along with the suggestion from rit333 I should be able to determine what's going on with the grips. Thanks again.

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