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1973 Ariens shredded new drive belts!

I got my old Ariens back together and was testing it out on some snow today, when after about 20 minutes of running, it stopped moving forward. I pulled it into the garage, took the belt guard off and saw that the 2 drive belts were shredded!
I'm kind of at a loss as to what caused brand new belts to be destroyed that quickly! The only thing I can think of is that the idler pulley doesn't spin very freely, and that caused them to break? It will turn, but stops spinning as soon as I stop turning it. Is it supposed to turn freely and keep spinning?
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maybe the bushings/bearings in the pulleys are bad
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that could do it yes

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Usually when that happens the belt is running on the wrong side of a guide or the brake arm for the auger pulley.
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Usually when that happens the belt is running on the wrong side of a guide or the brake arm for the auger pulley.
I'm pretty sure I routed the belts correctly, and it was working fine, just for 20 minutes though. It went forward in all gears and reverse worked.
Could a belt have slipped off the idler pulley?

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The idler should spin for a while on it's own. When you hold the center and then rotate the outside it shouldn't have any resistance and it should feel silky smooth. If you feel resistance or any grinding the idler is shot.

That may be the problem but I'm also curious if the belt's alignment was off or if the auger housing was tight to the transmission body? Also check to see if any welds might be broken in the mounting area allowing some flexing under stress which would cause belt misalignment and promote excessive belt wear/failure.

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I'm pretty sure I routed the belts correctly, and it was working fine, just for 20 minutes though. It went forward in all gears and reverse worked.
I've seen them work for about that long before when routed incorrectly, it's not always instant death.

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Could a belt have slipped off the idler pulley?
Possibly, but the only way you'll know is to look.
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I pulled the tensioner arm off and the pulley bearing does make some noise when spinning. I'm not sure if that's the problem, but I'm sure it's not helping!
Has anyone replaced the bearing in one of these before? The parts online that I saw looked really expensive! There's gotta be a cheaper way to fix it!

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