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Newly Acquired Ariens... Questions!

Hey everybody, got a good deal today, at least i thought it was a good deal...

Ariens YT-12 Lawn Tractor
12hp Briggs
Hydro Drive
38" Deck
36" Sno-Thro
Chains
Weight Box

Got the whole works for $150... Good? It was for me..

The Engine needs some work, won't start, or if it does runs poorly, have to go through carb and fuel system, etc. Worst case if the engine is shot i will spend the money to overhaul it or just outright replace it, but it will probably become my winter project as i have another blower that i just rebuilt to get me through winter, but two is better than one... LOL

Anyway other than some engine work and the vinyl seat being cracked its in good shape from what i can tell. All i have seen is pictures so far, it was an eBay find. Originally i just thought i would get it for the large blower, had a custom build in mind but the tractor looks good enough to put back to running condition and has the hydro drive that everyone says is better than the gear drive on these older tractors.

Questions..

Manuals for both the tractor and the blower? Any source for these?

Year of manufacture? I don't have all the info yet on it, i plan on picking it up today or tommorow so will get the serial number etc. The ariens website that others link to on here won't let me do anything without the serial number to search.

Any good source of info on the YT-12 online? I have been searching but it must be pretty rare as there isn't much mention of it online, even when google searching.

Thanks!
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Deal

On other forums I belong to when someone gets a great deal, it qualifies for a 'You Suck'.

Well in this situation I think it definitely qualifies for a "YOU SUCK".

Don't know the particulars on that setup but I'm sure you'll get it worked out. Given a deal like that, I'd grab it too if it came up around here.

Congrats on a great purchase.
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HA! In this case i am glady accepting the YOU SUCK cause i truly do...

I found out it actually has a Kawasaki FB460V for the engine. Not all that familiar with these so should be a learning experience.

From what the previous owner described they were mowing, engine slowed, lost power, and stalled out. Would never restart after that.

Its not locked up, turns over freely and without any weird noises, oil was changed regularly and is in good condition and full. I'm thinking fuel or carb related problem? Maybe ignition failure?

Will start from the start, check fuel, spark, etc. Can't find anything online as far as common problems with these such as a failed ignition coil or such so i will start with the basics.
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Nice!

The two stage snow blower is worth twice that by itself.

Around here, any lawn tractor with a deck that can be started is worth $150.

You got a great deal. That engine is used on the John Deere 160 lawn tractor as well as others.

http://www3.kawpowr.com/enginesecure...als/Fb460V.pdf is a location for the service manual for the engine.
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Thank you for the link to the service manual...

Put a compression tester on it today, it was low, was going to strip it down and check the valves as thats a common problem on these engines. Well the first two head bolts were tight, the next three were loose!

I tightened them down a bit but not overly tight, cranked with tester again, shot up from 35 psi to just over 55 psi.

Put the plug back in and cranked and she popped right off. However i can still hear a hiss hiss hiss by the lower head bolt so i suspect the gasket is still kaput.

Got a gasket ordered from PSEP for $13 and will retorque to spec using the service manual. So far so good. It runs and drives, although a bit roughly due to the leak, the deck engages, even the battery is good, just needed a couple hours on the charger, alternator output looks good.

So, will see how it goes! Just going over it, oil change, check the rear end fluid level and grease everything. Probably get some new belts too just to be safe. Bolted on the rear weight box, came with chains too. Plan on pulling off the deck and mounting the blower while i await the gasket.
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Wow, sounds like you got a great deal on a cheap fix.
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So far so good... I torqued down the head bolts, the leak went away, seems to be running good and strong, have a gasket coming to hang on the wall for when the other one gives up. Looks like at this point it was just loose head bolts causing a compression leak.

Worries me that some of the other head bolts won't even budge, could be looking at broken bolts if i tried to replace the gasket in the future.

Also browsing the web for a repower option... Looks like a Kohler or Briggs is about the only thing that would work on this. Wish i could find a honda clone in about a 13hp vertical shaft, even if it meant redoing everything it might be worth it.
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Well it started leaking again, retorqued two bolts, got a bit better, then one of the head bolts snapped.

My next repower project!! A new 13.5hp Intek OHV Briggs is on the way...
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If you have a welder then take the head off and weld a nut on what is left of the stud to remove it. Or if you don't have a welder find someone to do it for you. If not you will probably have to drill and tap them.

Maybe the bolts were stressed from heat or corrosion or old age. I know on cars they recommend replacing the bolts every time you remove the heads because torquing them down stretches them out.
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I do have a MIG, and this was my first thought as well...

Tried removing head, figured i might as well now. Snapped two more bolts, they are siezed tight. Not worth fighting anymore.

Going to unbolt the engine, remove it, all i need to save is the pulley, might even just go to the local farm store and get a new pulley to replace that also as it looks like someone smacked it with a hammer at one time, one side is dented a bit, don't want any problems to follow to new engine.

I ordered a 13.5hp Briggs Intek with a dual alternator output, 14v AC for the lights and DC output for battery charging.

I already got the wiring changes all diagrammed and figured out. I think that project starts this weekend, will warm back up to nearly 60 degrees, twice what it is now. Tomorrow is the coldest day this week so won't get anything done but planning.

Oh well, still a good deal to me. Last rider i saw with a mower deck and a blower attachment went for nearly $600, with a new engine i still have only $500 invested!
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