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2014 24D is now 1-wheel drive (Auto-Turn)

Hi all. New member here, and a little desperate since we had 14" overnight and I'm going to have to clear another 12" when I get out of work...

I have a 2 year old 24" Deluxe with auto-turn, and I've never had a problem with it - until today. I took it out of storage and started it up this weekend, and now only 1 wheel is getting engine power. It was working just fine when I put it away in the spring. The blower is adjusted properly, the frame is square, and the tires are both inflated properly.

This is different than the usual auto-turn complaints. No matter what gear, whether or not I've got the front of the unit off the ground, and turning in any direction, only the right-hand wheel puts any power to the ground. It's like the left wheel isn't even connected to anything.

I wonder if something in the auto-turn unit got seized up while it was sitting? Is there something in there that I'm supposed to lubricate? Is the auto-turn unit even serviceable?

I've seen a lot of people have problems with the auto-turn wandering or being hard to control, but I haven't found any info on it being flat-out broken. Does anyone have any resources they can point to for a repair guide?

Thanks in advance...
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no experience with auto turn, but what holds the wheels on the axles ? did you remove the wheels .....if the wheels have the common " pins", and you did remove them for spring maintenance , any chance you pinned the left wheel to free-wheel ? just a thought.

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Good thoughts, nwcove, but I have not removed the wheels. I'm used to locking pins (on my past models), but this model just has a couple of clips that attach the wheels to the axle shafts.

I called my local dealer this morning to make sure there's no switch or pin, etc. that I might have accidentally disengaged, and they confirmed there's no "on/off" widget I might have accidentally messed with. "Sounds like it's broken" was the response I got. Of course, if I take it to them for service, it will be March before I get it back...
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stay tuned......lotsa good help here, if it worked fine when put away last spring, it could be just something in need of a dab of grease. and welcome to the forum !!!

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no experience with auto turn, but what holds the wheels on the axles ? did you remove the wheels .....if the wheels have the common " pins", and you did remove them for spring maintenance , any chance you pinned the left wheel to free-wheel ? just a thought.
On my machine with Auto Turn the wheels are held to the axles with spring clips. The axle turns the wheels through a key-way. There are no pins.

For the OP, perhaps check that the wheels turn with the axles; if the wheels were removed to grease the axle and wheel hub the key may not have been replaced in the key-way.

The Auto Turn differential is normally closed and opens to allow the wheels to turn at different speeds. You can see the separation that allows the differential operation. There is a series of clicks that signal the differential is open to allow a turn, and the clicks stop when the differential closes to drive both wheels.

I have not heard of any problems with the differential but it could happen. Good luck.

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I recall last winter there was a fellow on here that had problems with his then brand new auto turn. Do a search here. I think it was a clip had fallen off or something simple like that. He made a fuss about it because it was brand new and the dealer far away.
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OK, mystery solved... Nwcove was right -- basically.

I took the wheel off last night to check things out. On these models, the wheels and axles have keyways, and there's a key that ties them together. They key was missing on that wheel, so the axle was turning, but not actually connected to the wheel. Then a lightbulb went on in my head...

Back in the spring, my father-in-law decided he would be helpful and winterize my blower for me (as a surprise -- hooray). So I called him last night to ask if by any chance he had taken a wheel off for some reason. He said he had indeed removed the left wheel so he could drain the carb bowl. I have no idea why he decided this was necessary -- I've never needed to do this. I asked him about the key, and he had no idea what I was talking about -- so I can only assume the key fell out when he took the wheel off (without him noticing), and it's somewhere in my back yard, underneath a 6-ft snow drift.

Lesson learned: be careful of any "help" you receive...

Thanks, everyone. You've got a great forum here. I'm sure I'll be hanging around here a lot.
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i may have "steered" you in the "right" direction, but Town had the "key" point .
fwiw......i would remove both wheels at the end of each season and lightly grease the axles.......a flat tire is a pita, but having to beat the wheel off the machine to fix the flat is way worse !

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