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post #1 of 25 Old 03-25-2017, 06:17 AM Thread Starter
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Novice question - what fuel do I put in a 536.885471?

I have 0 experience maintaining and have next to no understanding of how any sort of engine works. So I apologize in advance for what is probably so basic I couldn't find any prior discussion of it. Picked this functioning blower off Craigslist recently and need to get her prepared for spring. There is a little bit of gas left in the tank. My first thought was to run it till it dies, fill gas tank with TrueFuel, let it run a little more, call it a season. The manual says add unleaded gasoline and TrueFuel is a gas/oil blend. There is a separate fill cap for the oil. So, is that ok to use? The tank only holds 2 quarts, I don't have a gas can, and with my luck there won't be snow next winter.
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1)

2) I assume that you are talking about the TruFuel for 2-cycle engines as being the gas/oil mix (either the 40:1 or 50:1), and you are intending to 'fog' the engine with oil/gas mix for the off-season.

That would be fine.

3) as far as the separate gas and oil fill caps . . . hold on a minute . . . The engine is a 4-cycle engine (right?) and the gas and the motor oil shall remain separate on a 4-cycle engine. So, just want to make sure you were not planning on adding the TruFuel to the oil fill. The Trufuel will go into your gas tank.

4) Might as well change the oil while you are prepping the engine, unless you know that it has been recently changed.

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Thank much for the welcome. Wish I had found you guys before buying, but I think I did all right anyhow!

Yes, I was looking at the 50:1, although truth be told, I don't know whether the 40:1 would be more appropriate? Guessing not?

As for the engine, the manual/parts list describes the engine as 2-cycle. And truth be told, this is one of the places I'm getting tripped up. The manual says:

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FILL OIL:
This snow thrower was shipped with a container of 5W30
motor oil. This oil must be added to the engine before
operating Remove the oiltill cap/dipstick and fill the crank
case to FULL line on dipstick (21 ounces)
So there are definitively separate caps for oil and gas, which I thought was a 4-cycle only thing?

Now that you have me started on questions, the manual doesn't offer any instructions on how to change the oil!
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So the VERY SAME MANUAL says that the engine is a 2 Cycle but then then goes on to say that you should remove the oi cap/dipstick and fill the crank case with the supplied 5W30 to FULL line on dipstick (21 ounces) ?

WHO printed that Manual ?
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I don't have the original paper manual. This is what the Craftsman site brings me to:
https://www.shopyourway.com/manuals/12602

Both the manual and engine diagram show the separate caps.
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I looked up the manual for your snow blower, and I can see your confusion. In the parts section, they describe your engine as a 2-cycle engine (one where you would mix the gas with the oil), and in the operation section, they give instructions for the engine as if it were a 4-cycle engine - very confusing, and a sloppy job on the part of Sears. I guess you need to look up your engine model number and do a google search to determine whether it is 2 of 4 cycle, and then go from there.

Maybe a call to Sears will help straighten out the confusion, but more than likely, it will add to the confusion - which is why Sears is slowly going bankrupt.
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Yup, misprint on the Craftsman manual.

The engine actually is a Tecumseh HSSK50-67338N, which is a 5 HP 4-cycle engine

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Well, that solves a lot. Thanks very much. Glad we had this conversation before I dumped any mixes in
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FWIW, my craftsman has a B&S 13.5 GT 305cc OHV engine on it. The manual lists the replacement spark plug incorrectly. The plug they specify is for an Tecumseh L head.

Way too short reach and way to big shank and wrong threads, but, besides that it's perfect.

Makes you wonder sometimes if following the manual is such a good idea.

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Looks like I'm missing something here - probably more than something. Given it's a 4-cycle engine, I don't see why 2-cycle gas/oil mix would be used. Tru-Fuel has an ethanol free 4-cycle product I believe would be fine for storage - not the 2-cycle blend. I'd run it to empty as vfrex says he'll do, then fill with ethanol free and run it to get the remaining old gas from the lines. But, then I'd fill the tank back to full. One last point, if there's more than a tiny amount of gas left in the tank, siphon it instead of running it because you don't know if the gas is any good.
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