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536.887992 auger shaft popping out of flange

2003 9HP 29"

Once last year and just this past week, the auger shaft popped out of the flange. When engaged, the auger isn't touching any part of the housing. None of the blades looked bent.

What would cause the shaft to pop out of the flange?

Another question: just curious on type of engine -
Part # 143.049001 ENGINE (761811)

When I do a search at sears on the part #: This part is no longer available through the original manufacturer. No authorized substitutions have been identified.

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If the end of the auger is sticking out of it's bearing or bushing in the housing it's very likely the housing is bent. Have you ever run into something, wood, frozen newspaper, ... that jammed in the auger ??

9 hp, 318cc Tecumseh and the 143.049001 should be a Tecumseh HMSK90-156542f

Photos would be VERY helpful.

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The manual shows that machine as having a bucket with removable end plates. Maybe you have lost a couple of bolts and its flapping in the breeze, or as suggested, it's bent. Have you checked to see if maybe the bushings are worn out, or if the end of the auger shaft has actually worn away, or snapped off inside the bushing?

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If the end of the auger is sticking out of it's bearing or bushing in the housing it's very likely the housing is bent. Have you ever run into something, wood, frozen newspaper, ... that jammed in the auger ??

9 hp, 318cc Tecumseh and the 143.049001 should be a Tecumseh HMSK90-156542f

Photos would be VERY helpful.

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Last year I did have a frozen newspaper jammed in the auger. Took sometime to remove it. From the schematic on page 40 of the manual, the shaft seats in a flange. If there is a bearing and or bushing in the flange, it is MIA or I don't know what it looks like (which is probably the case).

Will provide some pictures tomorrow.

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The manual shows that machine as having a bucket with removable end plates. Maybe you have lost a couple of bolts and its flapping in the breeze, or as suggested, it's bent. Have you checked to see if maybe the bushings are worn out, or if the end of the auger shaft has actually worn away, or snapped off inside the bushing?
Nope all three bolts of the flange on each side are tight. I don't know what the bushing looks like and nothing on the schematic of page 40 references a bushing.

CRAFTSMAN 536.887992 PDF*MANUAL - Manuals -


UPDATE: did a search on the part number of the flange and it is called Auger Bearing and mine looks exactly like the following: http://www.searspartsdirect.com/part...FYIfHwodNYINeA

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That black triangular part is the bushing/bearing that both supports the end of the shaft and holds it in position and also allows to end of the shaft to spin on it.

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/craf...7/1507200.html

I have these crappy parts on my big 1032 Craftsman and I'm switching over to real metal bearings with ball bearings. On mine those plastic ones are NLA but it's my wheel axle bushings that are trashed. I'll end up doing the augers too.

Is there any chance yours are broken ?? Have you carefully checked left against right to make sure they look the same ?? That the bore isn't getting egg shaped ??
Still curious if you take a tape measure across the top of the opening you should have about 29" and if you measure down at the bottom it should be the same, is it ?? If the bottom is bigger that indicates your housing is bent likely from the newspaper !!

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Just measured the top and bottom as you requested:

Top outside to outside = 29 1/8
Bottom outside to outside = 29 1/2

Dang, so that means the housing is bent Looking at it, it certainly doesn't look bent, but the ruler doesn't lie.

What now? Will take some pictures later this am.


EDIT: just used a 2' level looking at the blower
left size is off 1/2" off center
right size is off just a tad

Checked Sears parts and of course the housing assembly isn't available.

Just visited local shop and he can fix anything but can't straighten housing assemblies.

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Can you see any broken welds on the housing that might have let it move out of square? Are the side plates plumb or is one off at an angle? Since the appear to be removable, maybe remove the problem side and see if maybe one of the bolt holes has gone oval, or if its possible to re align whaever is skewed. If that flange is still OK, you might be able to put some shims behind it to get it closer to the auger shaft to provide enough depth to hold it in place.

On the other hand, is the auger tube itself damaged, as in a piece worn off the end that should be inside that bearing flange?

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Can you see any broken welds on the housing that might have let it move out of square? Are the side plates plumb or is one off at an angle? Since the appear to be removable, maybe remove the problem side and see if maybe one of the bolt holes has gone oval, or if its possible to re align whaever is skewed. If that flange is still OK, you might be able to put some shims behind it to get it closer to the auger shaft to provide enough depth to hold it in place.

On the other hand, is the auger tube itself damaged, as in a piece worn off the end that should be inside that bearing flange?
No broken welds. Both flange|bearing and bold holes are good to go. Brain storming with neighbor, we tried shims, but it is just too tight to install.

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Finally some pictures, notice the ice within the auger area. 60 degrees today and I am still blowing snow|ice from the blizzard.

Minimal gap on left side


Notice the gap on the right side


Note level vs side of chassis
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could be camera tricks, but looking at your augers, it does appear that they may be contacting the ground ??

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Appears to me that the bushing on the right is split and no bolts going thru the housing looks like a shim or plate is missing. To me only on this phone. The left and the right are noticeably different
Craig

Where are the skid shoes?the augers look sharp and shiney

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