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post #1 of 24 Old 01-18-2017, 11:37 AM Thread Starter
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Seafoam Test....

My little 98cc failed to start last week which isn't all that uncommon for this thing. I always use new premium gas with stabil and echo oil for a 50:1 mix. Usually all I have to do is take the screw out from under the bowl, clean out the holes in that bolt and I'm good to go. I did that but this time I added some store bought 50:1 fuel and she started right up but sputtered a little and died as soon as I removed the choke.

That's when I took to youtube and watched a ton of videos and read threads about carb repair since I have ZERO experience. I gather that I still need to remove the float and needle to spray some carb cleaner and air up in the holes to clean them out too. Seafoam has also been a commonly used item.

So last night I got some liquid Seafoam and the aerosol too. There's not much fuel in the blower, maybe a cup or two so I put in an equal part of Seafoam. The blower started right up but died a few seconds after putting it to mid chocke which was a step in the right direction because after the basic carb cleaning I did a few days ago she would die immediately at half choke. I started her again and left it in full choke a bit then moved to half choke and sprayed the aerosol Seafoam in the air intake. She sputtered with a ton of white smoke but wouldn't shut down. After a few seconds of doing this I turned choke off and she still wouldn't shut off so I kept spraying. After about 20 seconds of no choke and spraying she eventually shut down. She did seem to be running at a higher RPM and ran a bit smoother.

So I parked her in the shed for now. In a few hours I plan to start her up again to get a new batch of Seafoam in there. My initial report is that the stuff works because I was finally able to take the choke off. I'll report back later.

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When you mix your oil and gas put in the Seafoam in

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When you mix your oil and gas put in the Seafoam in
I plan to. I've got any empty gas can that I'll fill up once we're getting a storm. No need to buy gas and have it sitting around any longer than it has to. :-)

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I only mix 1gl at a time for weed wacker and back pack blower,the last two snow storms we had here I used my Stihl 600 magnum back pack to clear the deck and drive way

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Let the Seafoam marinate in there for a couple of days or more and that carb will run even better. If you were to take a look at the back of that Seafoam can, you'll see that the directions
state that up to a 50/50 SF/gas mix is allowed. You don't have to go that heavy, but a heavy batch of SF marinating in that carburetor for anywhere from 3-7 days will clean out all sorts of
gunk in there.
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There's not much fuel in the blower, maybe a cup or two so I put in an equal part of Seafoam.
Thats waaaaaaaaaaaay too much seafoam.
thats 50% gas and 50% seafoam, no good, the proportion is way off.

You need to mix a brand-new batch of gas.

Get a new bottle of 2-stoke oil, read the can of seafoam to see how much to use per gallon.
(I dont know what it is off hand, im at work and my bottle of seafoam is at home.)

add the oil and the seafoam to the empty gas can, then fill up with gas.
(adding the oil and the seafoam first, then the gas last, helps mix everything well.)

If you can, try to get Ethanol-free gas:

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

Drain out as much gas as you can from the machine, add in the new gas, then try it..

The gas is your biggest problem, and right now your gas isnt right!
need to fix the gas first..

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Thats waaaaaaaaaaaay too much seafoam.
thats 50% gas and 50% seafoam, no good, the proportion is way off.

You need to mix a brand-new batch of gas.

Get a new bottle of 2-stoke oil, read the can of seafoam to see how much to use per gallon.
(I dont know what it is off hand, im at work and my bottle of seafoam is at home.)

add the oil and the seafoam to the empty gas can, then fill up with gas.
(adding the oil and the seafoam first, then the gas last, helps mix everything well.)

If you can, try to get Ethanol-free gas:

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

Drain out as much gas as you can from the machine, add in the new gas, then try it..

The gas is your biggest problem, and right now your gas isnt right!
need to fix the gas first..

Scot

The directions actually say that a 50:50 mix is what you should do for carb cleaning.

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The directions actually say that a 50:50 mix is what you should do for carb cleaning.
oh wow! I did not know that..
but I just went and looked at my bottle, and sure enough, it does say 50/50.
I stand corrected..

but! to clarify, it doesn't say you should use it at 50/50 for cleaning..
it only says you can use it at 50/50.
The actual wording is:

"For use in injector cleaning machines, use 50% seafoam 50% fuel"
(doesn't apply to carb cleaning)

"Safe to use Seafoam Motor Treatment with a higher ratio in fuel for cleaning, a ratio of 50% seafoam and 50% fuel maximum."

That does apply, but it only says you should use 50/50 maximum..not that you necessarily need 50/50.

IMO, 50/50 is still way unnecessarily high, although its apparently fine for short-term use.

Here is my Seafoam experience:

http://gold.mylargescale.com/scottyc...html#question4

this is what sold me on the product, and its the reason why I still use it with every gallon of gas for my Snowblower and mowers..It un-stuck a sticky carb float! I used it at the "regular" concentration, 1oz of seafoam per gallon. (that's a ratio of 128/1)..For cleaning, I might go a 9/1 ratio (90% gas and 10% seafoam) that would be plenty high for me.

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From the Sea Foam web site.
Sea Foam Sales Company - How to add Sea Foam Motor Treatment to Gasoline, Ethanol, and Diesel Fuels


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The link to the Sea Foam web site was extremely helpful. It specifically had helpful hints for snowblowers and a short video.
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