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$3k versus $1.8k...that is the question

Sorry to be a pest but I am losing my mind over an impending Honda snow blower purchase in Northeast Connecticut. I have a 13yo Craftsman 8.5HP/27.8" MTD that is LONG past being replaced and this is the year it is happening.

As a member of WAY too may forums, I was hoping to not be the guy asking this question with a first post but here I go...

I was set on an Ariens pro 28 or a Toro 1028 but once approaching the $2K pricepoint, I decided to look at the Hondas.

My situation is 1997 asphalt driveway, cracks galore, uneven areas, 150x12' foot long on an awkward sloped angle due to the builder believing an "S" driveway would add appeal...reality is snow melts creating ice patches here and there from first snow until spring. I also have a 4x2 car area next to the 2 car garage and lastly, I remove an area behind the house on grass that is 20x40 for the dogs.

That said, I see value in a 1332ATD but if is NOT all that is cracked up to be and/or if not ideal for our CT slushy/wet snow then I will kick myself for not having sought reference.

Any feedback on the clogging issues, long term reliability of the Honda 1332ATD versus a solid, old school approach like a 28/32 PRO or 1028, friction wheel unit?

Recommendations?

Thanks!
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the toro 928 is almost the same as that 1028,1 less hp, 265 cc ver 305 ,no stiffer shoes, some different decals list is $1599.00 no where near the 2099.00 of the 1028
i was the same way as you 1028 or a honda, to much money for the honda, my old 1997 toro 824 never let me down,so i went back toro
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Welcome here, not know your area at all any thing would be a improvement I am a Toro man so I like the 1028 but then here in Canada west coast have not seen any Ariens around to compare. I went from a Craftsman 8hp 24" to a 1128 Toro and a Toro will not clog up in wet snow. Let us know what you end up with. All 3 are real good machines not knocking any of the big 3.

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Im an old school Ariens guy here...

For around $700 give or take and your labor......

I'd rebuild a 924084 10hp 32" machine, it will outlast newer machines and is all steel. But these older machines are not for everybody, does not have auto turn or fancy gadgets to make turning easier.

$100. Donor machine
$300. 12hp B&S intek ( 110v starter, 60watt alternator, $75 shipping )
$100. Bearings & bushings .... axle, impeller, intermediate shaft
$40. Belts
$35. Friction wheel, drive chains, shear pins
$55. Shoes & scraper blade
$20. 00 grease for gearbox, engine oil, lube for rest of machine.
$50. Paint and supplies


Then with proper maintenance it should last your lifetime.

Ariens 24" 910962 7HP
Ariens 24" 924117 Modified Pro 342cc / 15.50 GT.. Currently Under Construction and testing trials commenced .......
Ariens 32" 924044 Modified Pro 342cc / 16.50 GT
Ariens / Troy Bilt 36" Frankenblower 16HP
~~ And Lastly ~~
Ariens 28" 924??? Double auger & impeller 14HP v-twin BEAST !!!
Plans are being drafted, parts are accumulating in the pile......
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Im an old school Ariens guy here...

For around $700 give or take and your labor......

I'd rebuild a 924084 10hp 32" machine, it will outlast newer machines and is all steel. But these older machines are not for everybody, does not have auto turn or fancy gadgets to make turning easier.

$100. Donor machine
$300. 12hp B&S intek ( 110v starter, 60watt alternator, $75 shipping )
$100. Bearings & bushings .... axle, impeller, intermediate shaft
$40. Belts
$35. Friction wheel, drive chains, shear pins
$55. Shoes & scraper blade
$20. 00 grease for gearbox, engine oil, lube for rest of machine.
$50. Paint and supplies


Then with proper maintenance it should last your lifetime.
Your right their is no denying it a rebuilt or garage kept 30+ year old classic will outlast and out perform any tin stuff they make today, at a fraction of the cost.
Craigslist, look for an Ariens, Toro, Snapper or Simpllicity from the early to mid 90's or earlier, best bet on machines out their. I love my 71 Ariens and my 32 wide beast basically shows all other snowblowers around who's boss and I have the added bonus of hooking a mower up to it. God I love American Iron, it is unbeatable.

Oh and I'm sorry but those new Toro's are like ahhh what happened to Toro? Toro's used to be big solid machines, you see how they make those now, wow ouch....

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Can you send me a link to the $300 Briggs you speak of, I'm also interested in 420cc ones to but if they are much more the 342cc will be good. I still see a few NOS Tecumseh 358cc and 12hp Ohv on ebay for 300 range those are sweet too. Thank's.
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Can you send me a link to the $300 Briggs you speak of, I'm also interested in 420cc ones to but if they are much more the 342cc will be good. I still see a few NOS Tecumseh 358cc and 12hp Ohv on ebay for 300 range those are sweet too. Thank's.
I've bought 8 engines from these guys and never had any issues. Great place to find what you need to upgrade your machines.

https://www.smallenginesuppliers.com...gines1865.html


Have used several of these lct engines, no problems but I don't like how the starters sound, also no throttle... just wide open all the time.

https://www.smallenginesuppliers.com...gines1816.html



A thread that has my 32" ariens with this lct engine on it.
https://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...oration-4.html

Ariens 24" 910962 7HP
Ariens 24" 924117 Modified Pro 342cc / 15.50 GT.. Currently Under Construction and testing trials commenced .......
Ariens 32" 924044 Modified Pro 342cc / 16.50 GT
Ariens / Troy Bilt 36" Frankenblower 16HP
~~ And Lastly ~~
Ariens 28" 924??? Double auger & impeller 14HP v-twin BEAST !!!
Plans are being drafted, parts are accumulating in the pile......
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Got this off of movingsnow.com to estimate HP ....

Here is a simple chart of approximate cc to torque to horsepower conversions. It’s not exact, but it will give you a better idea of how big the new engines are. I used 3600 rpm in the formula for this comparison.

179 cc = 5 hp

205 cc = 8 to 9 Gross Torque = 5.5 to 6.5 hp

250 cc = 11 to 11.5 Gross Torque = 7 to 8 hp

305 cc = 13.5 to 14.5 Gross Torque = 9 to 10 hp

342 cc = 15.5 to 16.5 Gross Torque = 11 to 12 hp

389 to 420cc = 18 ft lbs = 13 to 15 hp

Ariens 24" 910962 7HP
Ariens 24" 924117 Modified Pro 342cc / 15.50 GT.. Currently Under Construction and testing trials commenced .......
Ariens 32" 924044 Modified Pro 342cc / 16.50 GT
Ariens / Troy Bilt 36" Frankenblower 16HP
~~ And Lastly ~~
Ariens 28" 924??? Double auger & impeller 14HP v-twin BEAST !!!
Plans are being drafted, parts are accumulating in the pile......
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Toro 928 HD

I bought my first blower last year. A Toro 928 HD, about 9 HP.
I'm at 9200 ft in Colorado, so less HP at this altitude. It has performed great. Wet snow, dry snow. Wet snow take narrower paths if necessary.


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