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Why? Just wonderin'.. Why were they made. What's the advantage?? Seems to me they'd be less efficient.
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I think, it was toros first “anticlog” design. Designed to limit the amount of snow being ingested as to not choke the impeller with two much material.

I feel the same way about MTD, cubcadet, troybilts closed flite augers.

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I think, it was toros first “anticlog” design. Designed to limit the amount of snow being ingested as to not choke the impeller with two much material.

I feel the same way about MTD, cubcadet, troybilts closed flute augers.
They all had one? I assume it doesn't work well because not everyone is doing it.
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Big single stage snow blowers are still made by Riest in Canada and by other builders in Europe that are truck mounted.

That is the absolute beauty of single stage snowblowers as the solid snow blower rotor will quickly convey it to the center and then get rid of it without needing the second stage impeller.

The two stage walk behinds use of the solid rotor was to meter the snow in smaller amounts to the impeller at the chain driven gear set would rotate it to move the snow to the center. It also prevented the snow blower from clogging.


If someone wanted to make a single stage walk behind now I am unsure if it would sell well but if it had a 12 horsepower horizontal shaft gas engine with a standard air filter it would not require a serialk numbered certified can of whoop ass to work well for sure as it would have power and torque. Not as much as Geno's Frankenstein blower butit would work well.


It would not take a lot of work to get a serious whoop ass 24 or 36 inch walk behind snow blower with a few new parts using a 13 inch snow blower rotor and I would love to be the one to do it as it would not take much to do it with a track drive set up and you would not need a lot of options to make it work very well as the unit will have more than enough power to throw the snow a long way rivaling the yamahas.

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Why? Just wonderin'.. Why were they made. What's the advantage?? Seems to me they'd be less efficient.
Archimedes' screw . . . (Google that )

Efficient in moving material along the path of the 'screw'. Not sure efficiency vs. standard perimeter blade augers have been put to the test.

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If they were that good, then all the machines for sale today would have them .... just saying ...
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I've always been surprised by the enhanced removal rate with the old drum designs. If I need to remove alot of snow quickly, I grab my '89 824. If I want to take my time & "savor the throw", I avoid those machines.

Another advantage, there's a fraction of the contact area between the rake & shaft relative to a standard design; less area to rust-weld.


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The big Drum auger meters in the amount of snow. I don't know for sure but maybe TORO had a patent on it at one time or another..

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One modification that's rarely been discussed is to change the auger type in a given machine. I happened to do just that last year when I used the ribbon augers from a junk machine (which I bought for its transmission, to convert a Craftsman machine to friction disk drive) to replace the individual stamped disk augers on my 30" MTD machine. I've never liked those stamped disks, and a couple of them had broken where they're welded to the sleeve. The disks form a rather tight, closed screw that seems to be prone to jamming. The ribbon augers on the other hand have lots of open space. Whenever I see large tractor mounted snowblowers, I'm always surprised by how thin the ribbon augers are. I've only used the new augers as of this winter but we've had several good storms already and I have yet to experience a jam.

Why do they make those stamped disk augers? A cost cutting thing?
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If someone wanted to make a single stage walk behind now...
Isn't that what the Toro QXE line is? Self propelled w/ single stage. I've been impressed with what I've seen/heard.
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