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What's wrong with JD Murray? vs Murray? I like Murray

I've worked on a lot of mowers and blowers though not every brand and not every model as model changes vary, one year no good, next year they've changed and improved it.

I've worked on a lot of Murrays, Noma Murrays, Craftsman Murrays, John Deere Murrays, and Murrays. I like the brand. Easy to work on, parts are available. Seems to be a quality machine. Definitely not as cheaply as the newer MTDs or even the better older MTDs, yes I've worked on them also and have a relatively newer MTD Yard Machine 10/27 waiting for a repower and wheels! Hey, it was free. And I have a few older MTDs here in the yard which are much better built than the newer MTDs. The metal everywhere has gotten thinner on the newer MTDs, lacking auger grease fittings on some, the cables now loop around rather than straight besides the bent lead hook at the end of the cable.

But I like the Murrays. My main machines are a Craftsman Murray 10/29 and a Murray Noma 9/27 and next year a repowered Murray Noma 5/24 to be boosted with the 212 Predator. I'll be selling my Ariens ST522 5hp/22" when I repower the 24" Noma.

I also own a real John Deere 10/32", a great machine with cast iron gear box, 12' impeller, 16" auger, only problem is the short chute which needs to be extended. A neighbor has the real JD 5/22, a great machine, he's moving in a few months so I'll be "inheriting" it.

I don't understand the negativity and complaints to the dealers when Murray started making John Deere snowblowers for John Deere using the Murrays molds and machining. I have not had any problems with my Murrays other than normal and expected maintenance and repairs.

Can anyone specifically tell me what was wrong with them?

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I don't understand the negativity and complaints to the dealers when Murray started making John Deere snowblowers for John Deere using the Murrays molds and machining. I have not had any problems with my Murrays other than normal and expected maintenance and repairs.

Can anyone specifically tell me what was wrong with them?
There is nothing really wrong with Murray, but if I am paying for a John Deere, I want a real John Deere.

Not a snowblower but years ago when I bought a compact utility tractor, John Deere 4100, I was very galled to discover that the engine was manufactured by Yanmar and the transmission was made by Kanzaki. Now, both were designed by JD and contract manufactured by the other companies, but [email protected]!t I bought an American tractor by a paragon of American manufacturing and to find out that the entire drivetrain (what else is a tractor except a drivetrain with a seat) was manufactured elsewhere really kind of p!ssed me off.

So, I suspect that the negativity comes from something similar to what I described above. Probably nothing against Murray per se.

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After working on 4 Murray built JD TRS27s, I am in full agreement with what many others have said, they did not hold up to what people expected when getting a John Deere product. They just did not last well and tolerate being used in ways that the old 826s and 1032s that WERE built by JD could handle. The Ariens built machines for JD were more in line durability and reliability wise with what people had come to expect form the original 826s and 1032s. We are now down to 2 TRS-27s as I had to part out 2 of them due to failure of various things (non-engine related) That being said, I own a TRS-32 that is on loan to one of my church buildings. it too is showing the signs of failure that the TRS27s are. Even with good maintenance and upkeep.
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