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Scored a freebie - Ariens Compact 24 Model 920014

While walking the dog this morning, I noticed one of my neighbors had this Ariens Compact 24 out with the trash. I rang his doorbell and offered to take a look at the machine for him. He smiled and thanked me for the offer, but said "the machine is junk... only value is scrap metal" He said the drain cap on one of the two oil fill ports wasn't completely tight and all the oil "leaked out" since the last oil change in 2015.
Long story short, I could wheel the machine home if I wanted it. Once home, I quickly checked the oil level and the machine is bone dry. Gave the recoil a quick pull and there was very little resistance. I didn't see any obvious holes or cracks in the block, but I really haven't given it a full inspection. I'll pull the spark plug tomorrow and throw on the compression gauge. Cosmetically, the machine looks to be in excellent condition. Even the paint in the impeller housing is still in great shape. Engine looks to be a Briggs and Stratton Polar Force 208cc very similar to Honda GX200 clone engines. Engine has 120v electric start and voltage output for the accessory halogen light mounted by the control panel. If the B&S engine is toast, I'm thinking of re-powering with 6.5 hp Predator 212cc engine. I know the Predator 212cc engines don't have a stator output, but can I pull flywheel and charging coils from the B&S Hone clone and swap them over to the Predator Engine? Will the 120v electric start transfer over to the Predator Engine? In advance, thank you for the insight and feedback!
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Wow. I'm just amazed at the things people throw out. That thing looks brand new.
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Yep, looks like cheap junk to me.......

A little TLC and you can put at the EOD with a For Sale sign..... great find....
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thats awesome. i would probably toss some oil in and see if it runs even if it was used oil. no point doing a compression check. if any damage was done from the engine being run low on oil it would only see seen in the bottom end. if it runs i would probably yank the engine and try re-sealing the side cover if there is not too much material or connecting rod bearing slop when the cover is off. i would worry about replacing the engine when you cross that bridge.

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Congrats, you scored!!!

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If it was run out of oil and little resistance pulling the cord, the rod tightened up on the crank and snapped the rod. Usually you can get the aluminum transfer from the rod off the crank journal with muriatic acid (don't breathe the fumes). A little polishing with crocus cloth, a new rod and fresh gaskets and you are ready to go.
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If it was run out of oil and little resistance pulling the cord, the rod tightened up on the crank and snapped the rod. Usually you can get the aluminum transfer from the rod off the crank journal with muriatic acid (don't breathe the fumes). A little polishing with crocus cloth, a new rod and fresh gaskets and you are ready to go.

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I actually have done this on a few GX motors over the years. One as recently as last month. The crank is steel alloy and rods are usually aluminum. Take off the rod, clean up the crank and throw a new rod on there and you are back in business. The kits usually come with a new piston/rings as well.


I dont use acid as the aluminum usually scraps right off; take off as much aluminum as you can using plastic scrapping blades and polish with 2000 or 3000 grit emery cloth would do the trick.

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Thatís a terrific find! Some yayhoo would have tried to sell that in my area for $500-600 rather than give it away.
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@Freezn,

That's a new machine with no wear. He could have sold that even with a blown engine. Amazing what people discard All my 8 blowers were free.

Heck, a new engine is only 99.00 if things are that involved to repair.
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You guys never disappoint with positive feedback and excellent insight. Genuinely appreciated!
So here's the update. The engine is completely shredded. Tough to see in the picture below, but there's a hole the size of a tennis ball on the right side of the engine block (circled in red behind the electric start motor and oil dipstick tube). Just a guess, but I'm betting the crankshaft must have slung the connecting rod hard against the side of the block when the engine lost oil pressure and ultimately detonated. What a shame. The machine can't have more than 6-12 hours of total running time. So much for cleaning up the crank and replacing the rod....

Back to plan A. Ditch the shredded B&S Polar Force 208cc engine (Honda GX200 clone) and replace with a Predator 212cc engine. Just a few follow-up questions: 1) Should I go with the "standard" Predator 212cc engine or the Hemi version. I recall reading some recent threads about the standard Predator Engine having more flexibility for increasing the RPM's. What are the Pro's and Con's for both versions of the Predator 212cc? Also, I know the Predator 212cc engine does not have a stator output, but can I pull flywheel and charging coils from the B&S Polar Force (again, it's a Honda GX200 clone almost identical to the Predator) and swap them over to the Predator Engine? Will the 120v electric start transfer over to the Predator Engine? Thanks again for all the support!
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