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New ( to me ) CCR 2450 GTS

Used my newly acquired Toro CCR 2450 this morning. Paid $ 55 for it . It impressed me by starting on the first pull . I like the way it cleans right down to the pavement ( which my 2 stage doesn`t ) , but it does not throw far enough to clear the machine . I am assuming new paddles will fix this ( and double what I have in it ) . It runs around 3800- 3900 RPM. How critical is replacing the scraper at the same time ? Thanks
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It throws far when you have enough snow. Same for any snowblower. I have it so I know.

But, single stage snowblowers were meant for light snow (under 8" depth). They don't need to throw far. You start your first pass from the middle of the driveway and then the next passes spread out to both sides (go circle like, so you don't have to adjust the chute direction as much). If you don't know what I meant, then go watch Youtube videos.

Single stage works better than two stage in light snow. They scrape the driveway clean.

You will learn more about it as time goes on.
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Used my newly acquired Toro CCR 2450 this morning. Paid $ 55 for it . It impressed me by starting on the first pull . I like the way it cleans right down to the pavement ( which my 2 stage doesn`t ) , but it does not throw far enough to clear the machine . I am assuming new paddles will fix this ( and double what I have in it ) . It runs around 3800- 3900 RPM. How critical is replacing the scraper at the same time ? Thanks
I have only replaced 1 scraper, if they are just nicked up a bit I leave them. For me, worn out paddles make the biggest difference.

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Toro paddles have a 1/4" wear hole approximately 3/8" from the edge on the curved section. If the paddles are worn to the point that the hole is gone, the paddles should be replaced. Rotate the paddle assembly to a horizontal position and try to stick a finger between the rubber and the auger housing. If your finger fits, the paddles are worn.
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Thanks- the wear hole is just barely visible . Ordered a pair of OE paddles. Comparing this 5 HP version of the R-TEK engine to the 7 HP in my 726 TE , this seems so much tamer, quieter. The 7 horse sounds like it is over-revving , not so the 5 .
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the scraper bar on my 2450 is 20yrs old and has never been replaced. though I favor one of my toro 521's now days I still love my 2450, it has been used it every snow storm we have had up until I got my second two stage machine. it might work better in 8 inches of snow or less but it will tackle a blizzard, it will just take longer than a two stage

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Toro paddles have a 1/4" wear hole approximately 3/8" from the edge on the curved section. If the paddles are worn to the point that the hole is gone, the paddles should be replaced. Rotate the paddle assembly to a horizontal position and try to stick a finger between the rubber and the auger housing. If your finger fits, the paddles are worn.
From the manual for my 221 (next generation after the 2450 & 3650), they say to replace the paddles once you wear to the beginning of the hole. Like, once the hole is "cut open", you should replace the paddles, not waiting until the hole has been completely worn away.

I still have a pretty small gap to the housing, after installing new paddles last yeark, I can't get a finger in there. But I wish I'd thought to measure (with calipers) from the closest edge of the hole, to the edge of the paddle. That would have given me a better way to gauge how quickly they are wearing.

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Thanks- the wear hole is just barely visible . Ordered a pair of OE paddles. Comparing this 5 HP version of the R-TEK engine to the 7 HP in my 726 TE , this seems so much tamer, quieter. The 7 horse sounds like it is over-revving , not so the 5 .
I think the paddles will be a good investment. As long as the belt isn't slipping, they're probably the most important wear item. I got an OEM set of paddles, a belt, and scraper bar, for about $55 on Amazon last year, after buying my used machine. The paddles and scraper definitely needed to be replaced. And at least now I have a spare belt (the old one is still usable). Compared to what I paid for the machine, the set was "expensive", but I think it was worth it, since it basically functions as-new now.

As I understand it, there was basically a single displacement & design of R-Tek engine, and they changed the RPM setpoint, to adjust the power output. The engine service manual link is below. The 2450 runs at 3800, the 3650 runs at 4000, all +/- 300 RPM. You could slow your 726 down, if you felt you had more power than needed, and you wanted it to be a little less high-strung. And if you want your 2450 to perform like a 3650, raise it to 4000.
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. But I wish I'd thought to measure (with calipers) from the closest edge of the hole, to the edge of the paddle.

Original Toro paddles measure 3/16" to the top of the wear hole and 3/8" to the bottom of the hole. After market paddles don't have wear holes. I have always waited until the hole was completely worn away before replacing them since the gap is now close to a 1/2" between auger and housing.

I usually get 2-3 years of use when we have typical winters. If the current snow trend continues, I may get 4-6 years.

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Scrapper bar should be replaced when there is about 1/16 of an inch left on the bottom as per user's manual recommendations.

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By the way, when replacing your paddles - save the old ones for an impeller mod on your big snow blower, they work very well.

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