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Brute snowblower
Looking at snowblowers - saw an ad for a Brute 21000 series - 29 inch cut. Never heard of these - are they any good? The thing looks brand new - looks to be only a year old - asking price is $500.
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I think someone on here bought one of these last year and had nothing but problems with it.
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hello skyjockey, welcome to SBF!! take the $500 and find a good used toro, ariens or Honda and stay away from off brands
current machines
1-toro2450E-38419. 1-toro3000E-38435. 1-toro 3650E-38445
2-toro 521E-38052. 1-toro xl824pt 38086
1-.............,TORO XL 624ps..............
1-............, TORO XL 824ps..............
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Welcome, I have to concur with the general consensus. It maybe ok for a few years, and have some nice features, it just does not measure up in execution. Take a look and any of the above mentioned machines, even without those features, and I am sure that you will be able to see the build quality difference.
Garage:
MTD....2 stage(modern 8.5 HP) not my favorite
Honda HS622 TA-B - acquired at an auction- nice machine for it's size.
Toro S-140- Picked it up on trash day... it runs, sort of.
Yamaha YS 240 TB "Ricky" latest Craigslist find- on the bench now.
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ALOHA To the forms. take the 500.00 and find a nice TORO..
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Brute is probably fine..
It is a Briggs and Stratton machine, and should be basically identical to current snowblowers made by Briggs & Stratton,
which wear the Briggs & Stratton, Snapper, Simplicity, Brute, and Murray name brands.
It is not one of the 100% made in China machines, which should always be avoided..
just for reference, here is the current list:
from this thread:
https://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...ade-china.html
Although Brute is a fairly new name, and not much is known about it..
but IMO since its a Briggs brand name, its probably ok.
For new machines, I would only buy Ariens, Honda, or the Briggs brands.
I no longer personally recommend Toro for new, because they are now made in Mexico. (2-stage Toros)
used Toros, before 2014 model year, are a great choice. (new Toros are probably still fine too..I just personally wouldn't buy one
or recommend one because of the move to Mexico..your mileage may vary.)
Used machines have a lot more "good" brand names to choose from than current new machines..
I would take a 40 year old Ariens over a brand-new MTD, or any of the Chinese machines, all day long..(and I have!
Scot
It is a Briggs and Stratton machine, and should be basically identical to current snowblowers made by Briggs & Stratton,
which wear the Briggs & Stratton, Snapper, Simplicity, Brute, and Murray name brands.
It is not one of the 100% made in China machines, which should always be avoided..
just for reference, here is the current list:
Quote:
Updated list!
the Chinese brand names are getting so numerous, I have now put them in alphabetical order! Below is copied and pasted from previous posts, with updated names:
Updated list..some new 100% Chinese brand names have come to light..
List as of February 2014:
Snowblower bodies still made in the USA (everything except the engine):
All Ariens and Ariens Sno-Tek.
All Briggs & Stratton, Snapper, Simplicity, Brute, Murray.
Probably all Husquvarna/Poulan.
Most MTD's still made in the USA, although perhaps not all.. I believe MTD might be importing some 100% Chinese models for their really low end..Or brands like Craftsman is importing them, not MTD..its hard to know for sure what it going on..its best IMO to just avoid MTD names all together. (MTD, Cub Cadet, Troy-Bilt, Yard-machines, Yardman, most Craftsman)
Toro moved production to Mexico this year, so they are now off my "recommended" list too.
Toro now has (as of 2014 model year) snowblower bodies made in Mexico, with engines made in China. No Toro 2-stage snowblowers are made in the USA anymore. (all snowblower engines, on all brands, are now made in China.)
Here are the known brand names that are 100% made in China..these machines should be avoided at all costs!
Echelon
Huskee
Mansfield
Powerland
powRcraft
Snow Beast
Snow Joe
Stanley
World Lawn
There are probably more..
never never never buy one of these! Here is some reading about the quality you can expect if you do:
https://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...two-stage.html
https://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...dy-broken.html
the Chinese brand names are getting so numerous, I have now put them in alphabetical order! Below is copied and pasted from previous posts, with updated names:
Updated list..some new 100% Chinese brand names have come to light..
List as of February 2014:
Snowblower bodies still made in the USA (everything except the engine):
All Ariens and Ariens Sno-Tek.
All Briggs & Stratton, Snapper, Simplicity, Brute, Murray.
Probably all Husquvarna/Poulan.
Most MTD's still made in the USA, although perhaps not all.. I believe MTD might be importing some 100% Chinese models for their really low end..Or brands like Craftsman is importing them, not MTD..its hard to know for sure what it going on..its best IMO to just avoid MTD names all together. (MTD, Cub Cadet, Troy-Bilt, Yard-machines, Yardman, most Craftsman)
Toro moved production to Mexico this year, so they are now off my "recommended" list too.
Toro now has (as of 2014 model year) snowblower bodies made in Mexico, with engines made in China. No Toro 2-stage snowblowers are made in the USA anymore. (all snowblower engines, on all brands, are now made in China.)
Here are the known brand names that are 100% made in China..these machines should be avoided at all costs!
Echelon
Huskee
Mansfield
Powerland
powRcraft
Snow Beast
Snow Joe
Stanley
World Lawn
There are probably more..
never never never buy one of these! Here is some reading about the quality you can expect if you do:
https://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...two-stage.html
https://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...dy-broken.html
https://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...ade-china.html
Although Brute is a fairly new name, and not much is known about it..
but IMO since its a Briggs brand name, its probably ok.
For new machines, I would only buy Ariens, Honda, or the Briggs brands.
I no longer personally recommend Toro for new, because they are now made in Mexico. (2-stage Toros)
used Toros, before 2014 model year, are a great choice. (new Toros are probably still fine too..I just personally wouldn't buy one
or recommend one because of the move to Mexico..your mileage may vary.)
Used machines have a lot more "good" brand names to choose from than current new machines..
I would take a 40 year old Ariens over a brand-new MTD, or any of the Chinese machines, all day long..(and I have!
Scot
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Brute at least was a Murray usually if not always sold at Walmart. Briggs & Stratton bought out Murray a few years ago but they should still be more or less the same as any other current Murray/Briggs & Stratton based unit. The only real differences should be feature set.
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