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Older vs Newer

Does their appear to be a difference between the older or newer snowblowers on how well they perform, last, engine quality, gage of metal, hold their value, etc. etc.

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P.S. Older meaning 70's to late 80' to early 90's. Is there a particular brand, model and time period that is a must buy if found in great condition?
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1960's, 70's and 80's vintage, good names to look for:
Ariens
Toro
John Deere
Simplicity
Honda

there are others, but some names are good for some year ranges, and bad for others..Older Cub Cadets can be much better than newer ones..Same with Craftsman..but its easier to just avoid them alltogether unless you really know what you are looking at..

and yes, when it comes to snowblowers it often true that "older is better"
I would take a 40 years old Ariens over a brand-new MTD..and I have!
Snowblower quality (for all types of OPE, mowers, tractors, etc) has degraded greatly in quality over the past 20 years or so..Good quality stuff, new, is still out there, but its more expensive than many people want to pay..

A $250 30 to 40 year old Ariens can be a much better machine than many brand-new $500 snowblowers..better quality, reliability and longevity, even when factoring in the decades of use they have already performed. yes, I am actually saying a 40 year old snowblower can be better than a brand-new one. the quality then was that good, and the quality now can be that bad. Check out my page, link below, for my experience.

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I have been looking at Gilson's on line, not sure if those would also be in lumped up there with your list.

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Gilson is a well respected name in snow blowers as well. The old vs. new comparisons still apply...quality of metal and durability of older stuff is better. MH

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Old blowers

I'd also add to the list the older Craftsman blowers that have the 536 prefix in the model numbers. Those are the ones that have the Tecumseh transmission in them. IMO they're solid in design and the transmission is an advantage over a friction wheel drive. I've bought, repaired and sold quite a few of them over the past couple of years and have a couple of them I keep as my personal units.

I agree that older units, though usually requiring some repairs or maintenance due to age are usually a more solid unit than most of the newer ones.
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older machines didnt have heated handles, easy steer options or easy directionnal control of the chute.. all these features at the relatively same price point nowadays means manufacturers need to cut costs somewheres else.. thinner metal gets used.. stamped pieces instead of castings.. this is the realities of asking for more without wanting to pay more.. we`re partially to blame for this lol i mean.. look at large frame machines.. almost gone out of lower end market (find an MTD large frame under 1500 new) why?? because customer demand stated that we wanted lights, heated handgrips, easy steer triggers, one hand chute controls.. and we wanted it cheap.. so we got it

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older machines didnt have heated handles, easy steer options or easy directionnal control of the chute.. all these features at the relatively same price point nowadays means manufacturers need to cut costs somewheres else.. thinner metal gets used.. stamped pieces instead of castings.. this is the realities of asking for more without wanting to pay more.. we`re partially to blame for this lol i mean.. look at large frame machines.. almost gone out of lower end market (find an MTD large frame under 1500 new) why?? because customer demand stated that we wanted lights, heated handgrips, easy steer triggers, one hand chute controls.. and we wanted it cheap.. so we got it
I will take the old school heavy metal anyday.

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they do have some advantages in build strenght 9 times outta 10

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Most of today's snowblowers, in my opinion, are throwaway. Use them a few years and throw them away. It's also called built in failure. Don't get me wrong. There are some mighty fine machines being made still, but you're going to pay and pay dearly. Don't think you're going to walk into a big box store and buy a quality machine for $500. If you take very good care of it and don't abuse it in any way you may make it last 10-15 yes but honestly, I don't see it happening. Feel free to disagree.

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Most of today's snowblowers, in my opinion, are throwaway. Use them a few years and throw them away. It's also called built in failure. Don't get me wrong. There are some mighty fine machines being made still, but you're going to pay and pay dearly. Don't think you're going to walk into a big box store and buy a quality machine for $500. If you take very good care of it and don't abuse it in any way you may make it last 10-15 yes but honestly, I don't see it happening. Feel free to disagree.
micah.. i dont think anyone on here would disagree with that at all! my point was just.. we as costumers asked for this...in a way.. 50 years ago.. we couldnt walk into big box stores and buy a snowblower really.. so something had to change to make that happen.. and big box stores LOVE their profit margins.. units are still sold like that.. who`s paying for that?? everyone who cant afford to drop more than a grand for a machine.. and not everyone can do teir own work.. some opt for `peace of mind`of warrantee... others know a machine in the shop means your shoveling

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