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post #1 of 22 Old 11-29-2014, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
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17yr old Simplicity Pro 32 bent impeller - how?

I share this Pro 32 with a neighbor. It has been an awesome machine from day one. Over the last few years she hasn't been throwing the snow as far as it use to. I tried replacing the belts but that didn't do much. Where I use to clear the driveway with one throw I now have to throw it twice. Not fun. I bought it to a local dealer to give it the once over and he said the belt needed tightening. Other then that she should be fine. Cost me $100. Last storm it performed just as bad as ever. Today I bought it to another dealer who sells "as is" equipment figuring I would just sell this one and buy a new one. Guy looks in the housing and says, your impeller is bent. Not just a little but wow bent. Here's a pic.


He said all I need to do is heat up the fins with a torch and bend them back over. I tried to do that in the parking lot but realized it wasn't going to be as easy and it sounds. These fins are pretty heavy metal. I left it with the dealer to fix. He just called saying it's going to be apx $600 to fix since the impeller has to be replaced.. can't just bend back. I asked him to do a compression test on the motor to see if it's still strong before fixing anything. Will find out on Monday. Long way to get to my question but here it is.. How could this get bent that bad? I thought maybe a fist size rock but that would have made some serious noise especially when bending all 4 blades. Just looking for some thoughts. Thanks


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Wow! I am in the wrong business.

A $100 to just tighten the belt!
$600 to replace the impeller!

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You would be better off buying another blower. and I would not buy it off of those two.

The reason....someone ate something while blowing...maybe a cat or dog?
Something hard got sucked into it. That shouldn't do that just from age?

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What does the neighbor have to say? I blame him (unless "you" chewed up the neighborhood dog, cat, or cinder block)

Have you (or the neighbor) taken out the shear pins and greased them? I'm surprised they held up to whatever got to the impeller to bend it like it is. I learned with my first blower to take out the shear pins after every season and grease them, otherwise they rust in solid, doing no good when I was at my daughters for the first time snowblowing and found a landscape rock. No good!

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Steve, here's a thought. Take the impeller out, go to a local sheet metal shop that has a press brake. They should be able to bend it back into shape for ya.

Where you located at? Being a sheet metal salesman, I know of a few shops around the US. It's a long shot, but maybe I can help ya out before ya spend 600 bones.

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even a small rock can bend them. I know that first hand. I had to spend 200.00 on a new impeller.

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what he said...remove the impeller and shaft from the unit. once you get it out in the open, you can work. heat the bent hinged creased area CHERRY RED with a torch, then bend it back with vice grips, or a sledgehammer. I have a Gilson 55012 that had similar bent vanes on impeller. I straightened it per above, and then had the local machine shop weld it up to brace it, so it would not bend so easy again. that one also had a bent impeller shaft that had to be replaced. it was not that expensive but it was time consuming. do yourself a favor, while you're in there, change the rear impeller support bearing.

how does it happen ? I don't think from any single impact or ingestion of large rocks, sticks, or debris....I think they slowly get twisted out of shape as the years go by, from hitting successive obstacles one after another, like blows from a hammer, slowly bending it over. also the strain of pushing the snow probably moves them a few thou every year. it's a cumulative thing. just last night my Luminaire shut off while clearing some relatively shallow snow. I disengaged the clutch, and it started right back up. Looked inside the chute, there was a rock stuck between one impeller blade and side of housing- really wedged in there. it did not bend things like that. it may also be the design and hardness of the impeller itself. the Gilson blowers I own, have soft metallurgy compared to the Ariens and Cadet. so some will bend easier than others. they cut corners and cost, by not heat treating to as high a spec hardness.

the worst thing about the whole impeller job, is the impeller pulley if it's pressed on to the impeller shaft. the ariens type is way ahead in that the drive pulley is not on the impeller shaft, but cogged to it by a dog clutch yoke. those are easy to get apart, just take the set screws off and they slide right off

pressed on impeller pulleys are a beetch...

you may want to comb Ebay and Craigslist and other used parts sources, see if you can just find one in good shape, to drop in there shaft and all. save yourself a lot of worky...




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600 bucks is just too much to fix an old machine unless you are really in love with it.
Being a Simplicity 32" a replacement would be spendy but 600 just isn't reasonable to me. I'd try to be handy or find a friend who could repair or replace the impeller.

You also need to get approval as the neighbor who shares the unit should be kicking in 300 bucks. At least in my world he should.

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yeh 600 is salty...I think that's all I spent on all my machines put together to buy them !




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Yeah, I agree with all the above. $100 for a belt change is probably twice what it should be, and the impeller repair or replace is excessive. Possibly exceeding the value of the machine, which should have also been advised to you prior to the repair.

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I picked up a rock once that really did a number on mine. I removed the impeller myself and took it to a repair shop, it cost twenty dollars.
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