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Snowblower operation & gas storage

We just received our first snowfall (WV). When I came home with a full gas can, my wife asked some questions, and I realized I was not 100% sure of the answer.

The gas can (with Stabil) & snowblower (26", 8Hp MTD) are kept in an unheated garage.

Question # 1: The night before I use the snowblower, should I move the gas can into a heated garage to improve starting or operating performance, or is this a stupid question?

Question # 2: The night before I use the snowblower, should I move the snowblower into the heated garage to improve starting or operating performance?

Thank you.
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most of us keep our machines in unheated garages and have no way to warm the garage up. we start our machines up and let the engine warm up before tackling the snow

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We just received our first snowfall (WV). When I came home with a full gas can, my wife asked some questions, and I realized I was not 100% sure of the answer.

The gas can (with Stabil) & snowblower (26", 8Hp MTD) are kept in an unheated garage.

Question # 1: The night before I use the snowblower, should I move the gas can into a heated garage to improve starting or operating performance?

Question # 2: The night before I use the snowblower, should I move the snowblower into the heated garage to improve starting or operating performance?

Thank you.
First welcome to the forum and there are no stupid questions and as you probably know already only the stupid not dare ask.

For your question #1: Definitively no advantage to be gained by warming gas as it is governed by its flash point temperature and not by the ambient temperature in fact it might be slightly be more denser which is a good thing.
Question #2 The engine on your snow blower is either a Tecumseh or Briggs and Stratton and they are winterized engines as you probably have a primer bulb to help in cold starts, though being in a garage where the ambient temperature is around 25 deg far and higher makes it more easy to start the engine but you will be able to judge as you use it more.
Full choke, throttle 3/4 with 3 or 4 primer push and crank, as soon as it starts put choke at halfway point and let it warm for a minute or so then no more choke should be needed. Before starting though check oil level everytime. Good Luck and come back should you need more assistance.

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by Princess Auto in Canada.

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Welcome, and do not worry about heating either. In fact, taking cold gas into a warm area, may promote condensation inside the gas can, which can introduce water into your fuel system of your machine. Just take a broom or snow brush and knock as much snow off as you can prior to storing it. I do not believe your machine came with a fuel shut off, some believe that you should shut the machine off by turning the fuel off. I lean this direction, as most of the problems that I have ever seen with intermittently used OPE, has been gummed up carbs. Shut offs can be added pretty easily, if you choose to do so.

One thing that is advisable, do not buy much more than you think you'll need to use. And what is left, use in your car/truck within two weeks. This way, you'll never use stale gas and it's not wasted. After your first couple times using your machine, you should get a pretty good idea on how much fuel to buy.

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Yea, I wouldn't worry. I would make sure you have gas on hand before it snows though. The snow can make going out to get the gas an adventure, plus the gas station might not have power or something.

As for warming the blower, that might actually work against you. I have always heard the blowers and shovels work better when cold. If they are warm they can melt the snow slightly and actually cause it to stick more. I don't know how true that is, but seems logical to me.

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+1 on what Shryp said, and add that it's kept in the cold it will probably turn over quicker/start better with synthetic oil than dino oil. One more thought : maybe bring it in the garage if the garage is over 32 degrees "after" so whatever snow is left in the impeller and bucket can melt and drain off rather than freeze up solid in there, if you have that option.
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We just received our first snowfall (WV). When I came home with a full gas can, my wife asked some questions, and I realized I was not 100% sure of the answer.

The gas can (with Stabil) & snowblower (26", 8Hp MTD) are kept in an unheated garage.

Question # 1: The night before I use the snowblower, should I move the gas can into a heated garage to improve starting or operating performance, or is this a stupid question?

Question # 2: The night before I use the snowblower, should I move the snowblower into the heated garage to improve starting or operating performance?

Thank you.
I'm a newbie at owning a snow blower and have similar questions.
I was at the barber shop today and the barber told he uses his electric leaf blower to blow snow and water off his machine after using it so it won't freeze solid.
I haven't tried starting my machine in real cold temperature yet , but thought it might help the motor out if I put a 60 watt light bulb near the base of the engine to warm the oil in the crankcase on cold days. This could act like the block heater in a car. I keep my machine in a small 6x8 unheated lean-too that I built at the back side of my house.
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The leaf blower is not a bad idea. I would be carful with the light however.

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MTD....2 stage(modern 8.5 HP) not my favorite
Honda HS622 TA-B - acquired at an auction- nice machine for it's size.
Toro S-140- Picked it up on trash day... it runs, sort of.
Yamaha YS 240 TB "Ricky" latest Craigslist find- on the bench now.
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I agree, the leaf blower does sound like a very good idea....Yet the 60w light probably worthless for warmth in a very cold, open air lean-to...IMO
Also, If blower is a used purchase, I'd remove the heat box and inspect carb area..then peeking in the carb inlet, I'd push the primer couple of times and be sure I could see a good up squirt of gas in there...If not, I'd buy a can of carb spray, just in case to use as prime....You'll definitely need a prime in colder temps...reinstall box...

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They make small block heaters that would be much safer and more efficient than a light bulb.


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