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I saw the youtube and had some belt from my old treadmill so went and put those impeller seals on. The video looked promising. I still haven't had a chance to try it on slush but have on regular snow. All I can say is WOW what a difference. Instead of the usual semi solid blast of snow coming out of there it seems more like a solid tube of snow and off hand it's going probably 20% further .
I will say this stuff we have had since modification is ideal snow as it's been around 0F or thereabouts continually. What surprises me is that for once it looks and acts like one of those advertisements you see . I can't wait to see how it works with the sloppy stuff.
The only thing I did different that the guy on youtube was put the flap on every ( 3) blades of the impeller. My interest there was just keeping the blade somewhat balanced.
My only other difference was he said to self tap the 2 screws on each blade. No way with the Ariens. It was so thick I had to predrill the holes for the screws and I used screws with a washer head. My only caution putting those on besides pulling the spark plug lead is this. Jamb up that impeller blade really well . When you are pushing on the drill waiting for that moment it's gonna go through WATCH THE FINGERS holding the drill, particularly the one on the trigger. When it goes through the rather sharp edge of the chute mount is right there waiting for you. Put something like a towel over it so you don't get a black fingernail. If the impeller is hardened steel like mine you can't just "keep it light" as it just won't cut.

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Yes is the answer to your question regarding how well it works. And yes, I put one on each impeller. Adding just one is simply not the brightest thing to do. It certainly is easier but long term it will hurt the impeller bearings or bushings. Bottom line is it works great and now I see the snow plume shooting high and far. I have not tried it in wet snow.

I installed it on a 1989 Bolens 5210 5 hp Tecumseh 2 stage snow blower. I used the "SnowBlowerImpellerKit.com" kit. I wanted a developed and proven kit, not a DIY kluge of parts and materials. As it turned out, no matter the kit you buy you have to fit it to your snow blower because no two are the same. The owner of snowblowerimpellerkit.com will custom cut the rubber and metal backing plates if you give him the size of the impeller flat surface. So, you don't have to do any cutting of the rubber and steel bracket or backing plate. You won't need the last three items on the below list.

I used the following items to install the snow blower impeller kit;

  • Open end wrenches
  • 3/8" socket set with extension
  • Harbor Freight Stepped Drill
  • 18 volt Dewalt drill
  • 7 inch Kobalt extension for the drill
  • Motor oil (to lube the drill tip)
  • Silicone spray (to lube the inside of the housing)
  • 3 foot long 2" x 2" piece of wood to lock the impeller in place for drilling
  • Box cutter (to trim rubber)
  • Bandsaw or hacksaw to custom cut the steel backing plates with holes
  • Disk sander or file to debur and radius the edges

It took about an hour to install the impeller kit.

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Funny you should mention the smashing if the fingers when the drill pops through. I had the same issue.

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Funny you should mention the smashing if the fingers when the drill pops through. I had the same issue.
A stepped drill with a long extension helps minimize such smashing. Both the step drill and the long extension are finger saving options for drilling.
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It took about an hour to install the impeller kit.
The impeller on my Cub Cadet has an angled piece like that. I just bent the metal backing plate to follow along with it, so there's more area covered by the rubber. Works great!

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I made my own. Did a write up titled toro 11/32 mods. I used a truck mudflap from napa $12 and my assorted 1/4 20 hardware
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I like the way it performs. I bought the "Bailer Belt" at a farm supply store and cut it to size and bolted it down.
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One thing for sure. With that large backer plate rig you darned well better make sure it's equally spaced for balance. I doubt a 2" x 4" piece of mud flap or treadmill belt and a couple self tapping sheet metal screws wouldn't unbalance it much but that big backer probably would.
You wouldn't want to ruin that bushing your impeller runs on. Mine was shot with about a 1/16" wobble and I replaced it last year. I don't think there was one single piece left in that gear box by the time I had that pig so it would come out. What a mess and all greasy and interconnected. It's definitely not something I want to do again for a long long while.

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The impeller on my Cub Cadet has an angled piece like that. I just bent the metal backing plate to follow along with it, so there's more area covered by the rubber. Works great!
We will have to have a snow tossing contest.

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Hello,
I have scapped out 3 or 4 treadmills and none of the belts seemed thick enough to use. I am afraid that when you get into the slush the rubber might bend backward leaving the slush to build up-clogging? I used the sidewall of a truck tire and this wet/heavy snow we got in lower Michigan didnt slow it down any. Hope it works ok for you.
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