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Newbie friction drive question

On a new model ( mine) is it designed so that if traction is good and I'm trying to go through heavy , bucket height + of snow , the friction part should slip to protect the rest of the drive train to the wheels from too much stress ?

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The wheels on my (nearly new) 24" Platimum just keep turning.

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The wheels on my (nearly new) 24" Platimum just keep turning.
That's what I thought , but being new to snowblowers I just wanted to check. My only real experiences with friction drive are from an old snapper comet 30 , the only thing that would stop it was a loss of traction trying to push over saplings after they got close to 2" diameter The only wear on the drive disk was because I liked to put it into high gear , dump the clutch , and see how far I could ride a wheelie

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This is what I was trying to blow yesterday . Bucket + depth , full bucket width , snow that has been there a while and has had snow blown on top of it .


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Just remember one thing. You own a snow blower and not a plow. The drive train is designed to move the machine around and not plow snow. You should always match your drive speed with the depth and weight of the snow. Let the front of the machine process the snow and just use the drive to move it as the snow clears.

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The transmission should be able to transfer power in excess of your traction. In other words it should not slip, it is not an overload clutch and traction should break at the ground. Any axles, pins, chains etc. should be capable of handling anything the systm can develop.

Something as simple as wind blown snow wetting the drive disc surface will make these transmissions slip.

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Just remember one thing. You own a snow blower and not a plow. The drive train is designed to move the machine around and not plow snow. You should always match your drive speed with the depth and weight of the snow. Let the front of the machine process the snow and just use the drive to move it as the snow clears.

You and your machine will both be much happier if you go easy on it.
Thanks ! I am just learning here
The drive speed was at the lowest setting , but the snow is settled and heavy ( my dog weighs close to 80# and those are his tracks on top of the snow) . By half way into that short run the front of the machine was still processing the snow very well , but that's when slippage started. After that I tried just tapping the drive handle , or backing up a foot or two and trying again ( tapping the drive ) . The bucket never came close to needing time to process the little bites I was taking , nothing at scraper bar level except the heavy snow , but the wheels would stop turning. I gave up because I didn't want to wear out the disk .
I know I was asking a lot out of it , but wanted to get the snow off my frozen sump pump line.
Guess I just didn't buy the right machine for my needs.

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"Any axles, pins, chains etc. should be capable of handling anything the systm can develop."

Well, up to a point. Trying to do too much is how those things do get broken.
In normal operation everything is designed to work properly but it's also the reason they put in shear bolts or soft bolts in the wheel drive system. So they break before something else does because the engine can produce enough torque to damage the axles, chains, gears, etc in the system when someone exceeds the machines abilities.

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"Any axles, pins, chains etc. should be capable of handling anything the systm can develop."

Well, up to a point. Trying to do too much is how those things do get broken.
In normal operation everything is designed to work properly but it's also the reason they put in shear bolts or soft bolts in the wheel drive system. So they break before something else does because the engine can produce enough torque to damage the axles, chains, gears, etc in the system when someone exceeds the machines abilities.
Ground ground engagement is the "overload clutch". The tires should spin before the drive train can hurt it's self.
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OK , so clearly I was asking too much by trying to go through snow that has been there for over a month. I'll just make sure that I only use it for fresh snow and not ask it to anything heavier. Glad I don't have the eod stuff to try and move.

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