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New ST 227P some questions, some issues

I'm thinking about returning it.
Hello I just took delivery of new Husqvarna ST 227P (961930097 02)

First thought awesome machine, looks great, assembled easy...
But then....
Some issues

1st the oil level shipped at bare minimum on the stick..
Should I add a little?
The Engine manual states 20oz capacities, one would assume the factory added the correct amount.
If I keep the machine I guess I'll drain and fill with 20oz and see...

2nd get it started all good till I put it in reverse
Reverse is pretty much useless, if it was any slower I'd be going forward
I wish there was a way to speed it up... Is there?
Forward speed's no problem it will go way faster than I'll ever want
Top speed I'm running...

3rd I'm thinking I'll buy some extra belts
I look online for belts, funny everywhere I look doesn't recognize my model # or simple doesn't offer any parts being available ***...
I did finally find some belts after calling sears parts direct both belts shipped will run $35 and change shipped.

During my search for belts I discovered Lot's of folks having issues with Belts on brand new machines...

I know I can buy V belts locally cheap if I have the size...
Seems like Snowblower belts sizes are Top Secret
I know I can take a belt off and measure it, maybe someone around here already has?

Does anyone know the actual size for both belts Drive and Auger??

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Edit:
Found Impeller belts OEM # and size
Husqvarna OEM #581-832401 (size .4L X 35.4 / 90 CM )
Drive belt OEM 584216102 (size .4L x 38.19)
(measured width of my actual belt's at 1/2" wide)

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AFAIK, lowes has the belts Husq. branded at $20 or $25. Both drive and Auger.

FWIW, the oil on my 300 series was at the low mark. I ended up adding about 4-5 oz to reach the ~high fill~ oil mark on mine.
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Since it's brand new it should have a section in the owners manual on parts and it should at least list the Husky part number. If you can post that I can make sure I'm crossing it over correctly.
If you drop the "02" off the end of your model number it does pull up on the different parts sites.

Poulan 961940007 Parts List and Diagram : eReplacementParts.com

Traction belt 532419744 crosses to AYP 419744 1/2" x 34.5"

Auger belt 532408007 crosses to AYP 408007 5/8" x 38"

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Forgot the reverse question. There is a way to adjust the whole transmission so the forward speeds are a little slower and the reverse is a little quicker but it's not much. They just aren't designed to go very fast in reverse to take into account not running over their operator !!

Here are some videos on the topic. https://www.google.com/#q=donyboy73+adjust+transmission

You want to adjust it so that first just barely crawls and that will push reverse out as much as possible on the opposite side of the driving plate making it a bit faster.

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There is way to adjust the speed via the cable on the speed control. Not sure which way you need to go to get more reverse speed. You could either loosen or tighten the cable as needed and see what difference it makes. The reverse speed should be able to be adjusted. If you like the rest of the machine and cannot adjust it yourself I'd contact your nearest Husqvarna service center.

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being a new machine I wouldn't be doing much except calling the store where you purchased it from after all its under warrenty

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Thanks.... to all you who have replied to my thread

I have found some info on my belts
I'll post it incase someone finds this thread asking the same

The Impeller belt:
Lowes web parts ( found on picture of belt) Husqvarna OEM #581-832401 size listed as 35.4" / 90 CM (this OEM# matches the # on my machines Impeller belt)
Also OEM #581832401 from part Diagram that matches my factory model #ST 227P - 96193009702 (2015-05) at bakerspower.com

The Drive belt OEM #584216102 from bakerspower.com
So far I haven't found the actual size measurements for the Drive belt

I measured the width of both belt's on my machine at 1/2" wide

These #'s are from my machines actual belt's
Note the drive belt # is different than above info
Impeller belt HCOP 581832401
28 15
Drive belt HCOP 58421802
19 15
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I'll look into adjusting cable's to maybe speed up reverse

If it turns out to be a cable thing I'll probably keep the machine
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New member with a new ST 227P (last Thursday...), and some related thoughts and observations:

Oil level: Mine too came with minimum oil level. I added some to get to the full marks before starting the engine. It didn't take more than a few ounces. After that, I started the engine and let it run free (no load) for about ten minutes. This break-in operation is recommended for many engines, but for some reason there's no mention at all of break-in operation in either the snowblower or the supplemental engine manuals. Following that litle run, I checked the oil after a few minutes, and found it just below the full mark. Added another ounce or so to bring it back to 'full'. Fortuitously, we had some nice soggy snow yesterday to try out the new machine. Four driveways and a couple hours later, I checked the oil and found it slightly below the full mark. I drained it and filled with fresh Mobil-1, to get any break-in or leftover manufacturing particles and debris out of the system.

Background that may or may not apply: Many engine manufacturers give their products a short run on propane as part of the QC process. Usually that includes a dyno of some kind so they can verify that the engine makes rated power. To do that run, they put in enough oil to protect the engine. They of course see no reason to give you bunus oil beyond what's needed for the test. Our Operating Manuals came with pretty specific instructions to check the oil, which we have done. We choose to add oil to bring the level to the top of the permissble range when we find it at minimum allowable level. But it is in fact at an allowable level. Several decades ago now, GM dealers sued the factory because every new car they received for delivery was low on engine oil and transmission fluid. The factory saved millions by shorting the fluids, knowing that the dealers would make up the shortfall out of their own pockets. The dealers claimed that they deserved compensation for the fluids, plus the cost of putting it in. When you think about how many cars and hours were involved, it's a big number of dollars. How many engines do you think LCT builds in a typical production day? Multiplied by four ounces, carry the six...


On the slow reverse: Seems to me that 'reverse' is an add-on almost, something that would be used to help back out of a snowdrift that you might find yourself stuck in. So the crawler speed is about right. Want to back up faster? Try squeezing both 'steering' handles at the same time and pulling on the handles. The steering handles release the drive to the wheels selectively for steering. Squeeze both and the drive is disconnected from both. The macine is very easy to pull backwards when you do that.

The Belts: Thanks for the info on the belts and sources. Those are on my immediate purchase list for the spares box.
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Go grab one from the dealer you bought it from.
Probably defective. I've snapped 1 belt in 25 years in 2 machines chuckin snow.
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