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Hey all,

I've got a 79' Ariens 924036 (24" - 5hp Tec), and the engine is just plain tired. I've struggled with it a bunch and I think that if I can make it through this winter I'm going to re-power it in the spring with a predator 212cc.

My concern is as follows:
I don't have a garage or a shed that is anywhere near my driveway, so the snowblower sits outside under a cover. If I didn't have an electric start for the Tec, it would NEVER start.

For those who have Predators currently, how many of you guys don't store your machine in a garage? How hard is it to start?

I've thought of putting a drop-light under the snowblower cover to warm the thing up a bit, but I feel like leaving that running all night isn't particularly safe.
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post #2 of 9 Old 01-10-2017, 04:19 PM
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I store my Harbor Freight Greyhound powered Ariens ST 824 in an unheated shed, with no electric start. I keep a can of ether right next to it. When I go to start it, I take off the air cleaner and give it a small sniff, pull the cord and it's running. It usually has stale gas, and won't start unless I use ether. With fresh gas it starts on choke no problem. My only complaint is I never drilled out the main jet, so it has to run on half choke....not hard to do but the only time I think of it is when I go to use it and it runs on the choke so I just go with it. Once in the ten years I've used it the governer linkage iced up, and caused a problem, but only that once. If it happened more often I would have built a heater box.
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I keep mine in a shed as well the shed has ventilation shafts on the top to allow fresh air in. Its an arrow sheet metal shed, galvanized painted with a framed level wood floor sold at sears. Mine is 10x16, kinda large I have a lot of stuff. I have noticed the one corner of my sheds floor is taking on moisture but that doesn't affect my machine's. Otherwise it is out their in all temps. It doesn't get wet and moisture level is low in their so its fine in their. I notice dust very minor surface rust on bolts when I pull it out for the winter that's it, anything with paint stays protected. My machines start up no problem, every year the last 10 years since I put that shed up. I have stored things under a tarp before. The problem with that is moisture which causes surface rust more than anything. I think if you ran the fuel out of the carb and either ran the tank dry or put stabilizer in the tank and then put a thick plastic bag around the engine and sealed that bag tight around the motor with a bungy cord around the base you should be pretty well okay. Then you can cover the entire machine with a good tarp. But remember the machine will see moisture and will get surface rust on areas where paint has worn off or that chrome plating on the handlebars of the older Ariens. Otherwise you should be okay engine wise and overall okay machine wise with some weather. You are at higher risk of animals getting into the tarp and living in their in the off season and possibly making its way into the belly pan or any other openings in the machine and making a nest. That's the biggest concern. I think you can get away with it but I recommend you get a shed or a small storage unit type thing you can put in your backyard that will fit the machine itself. Even if you have to build a little storage container with lumber. It would take up little space and keep your machine protected from water, moisture and animals, make sure add ventilation to it, if you go that route, good luck!
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my chonda powered ariens is spending its first winter in an unheated shed, and if it doesnt start on the second pull.....ive done something wrong . i wouldnt keep it outside under a plastic tarp, but would have no issue with a proper ( universal) sb cover.

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no experience with keeping my snow blower outside but I did a engine swap on a log splitter that stays outside and starts perfectly every time after changing the spark plug. if you don't change the plug to an NGK you will have hard start problems from my experience. correct plug for 212cc predator is ngk bpr6es.

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I have to agree with the ease of starting the predator....as long as you remember to turn the switch to the "On" position. Yes, I admit this has been an issue for this user occasionally!
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I had a toro I repowered with at 212cc predator. Out of the box 2 pulls if it was stupid cold, one pull if it wasnt. After I upped the main and pilot jets a bit it was basically one pull always.

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i keep my predators in an unheated shed. they usually start up on 1 or 2 pulls, no ether
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no problems here starting my hf engine when cold usually one or two pulls and off it goes.
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