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Newest addition to the fleet! cant wait to dig in and get this thing running. missing the gas tank though. electric start works good too. I will likely be swapping the engine anyway rather than pay $50-$90 for a used gas tank for this thing.
thinking the 6.5hp predator as I have had real good luck with those so far. or should I go to the 8hp model?
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$75. Has to be worth that in scrap alone. Not that I ever would.

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Newest addition to the fleet!
thinking the 6.5hp predator as I have had real good luck with those so far. or should I go to the 8hp model?
nice machine, but sorry to hear about your engine choice....that's like taking a vintage Hemi Superbird, and putting a Toyota engine in it, as an "upgrade"

I'd rethink that approach...

remember, real snowblower engines (and cars) are made in America, not China...






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Yeah, I hear yah...no new snow engines left made in USA. I work for Generac and they make a great engine but no straight shafts... Harbor it is.

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why don't you look for a NOS engine. or rebuild that 1.

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I would consider a NOS briggs 8hp. There is just no comparing the newer ohv engines to these older flat heads. The flat heads seem great at never really bogging down but the high end performance of the ohv is undeniable - and not to mention easier to start and maintain the valves.

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I have to say that I am no fan of those up-draft carburetors like the one on that Briggs and Stratton engine.

I can fix the Tecumseh engines in my sleep and most Briggs engines but those up-draft carbs always seem to leak. I think the two halves get warped and then they don't fit tight any longer.

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I have to say that I am no fan of those up-draft carburetors like the one on that Briggs and Stratton engine.

I can fix the Tecumseh engines in my sleep and most Briggs engines but those up-draft carbs always seem to leak. I think the two halves get warped and then they don't fit tight any longer.

Nice machine, that Simplicity.

Yeah, so far I am hating the Briggs unit all together. recoil starter rope was broke and who knew that the stupid thing was such a pain in the a** to fix. haven't even got to the carb yet and I am already annoyed with the Briggs engine. Cant wait to swap that engine out. that being said...20+ years in on that engine and still great compression... credit where credit is due.

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Well, have the new engine mounted. this is my first Predator 8hp model that I have used. overall seems like a nice engine so far and mounted directly up to the Simpicity with no need to drill any new holes.
only thing so far is that this thing has a 1" output shaft...how stupid is that. I am having a very hard time finding pulleys of the correct size with a 1" bore... has anyone else used one of the 8hp predator engines?
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1986 toro powershift 6/24 ( 212cc Predator upgrade)
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