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Simplicity sno-away 860 repower

I have a Simplicity 860 mid 1990's model. Has anyone repowered one with a Lifan 11hp clone engine? I am concerned with clearance problems. The main concern would.be the wellbuilt handle supports.
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I used the Predator 301cc 8hp engine. worked fine. has a 1" pulley though so you will have to buy new ones with that size bore. I went to a 3.25" diameter for auger

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Do you know if this machine has a cast iron or steel gearbox? When you repowered yours. Was there much additional clearance with the new 8hp engine. I am looking at using the 11hp Lifan/Greyhound engine and it shares the same engine block as the 11hp, 13hp GX Honda Series engines.
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Looks like it still has a lot of life left in it.

That would be a nice machine with 11 horses on tap

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I've done one with the 212 Predator, no issues, but if I had used the 301 I would have needed to notch the handle and move the chute control. I looked at them side by side.

That said, the original pulley on the 860's Tecumseh is 3/4" so the 212 went on slick with original stuff, but the 301 would have needed new pulleys for the 1" shaft.

You may run into supports in the way under the engine mount area, I did, had to grind a bit to allow bolts where "I needed them to be". Not sure about engine mount pattern on the engine you speak of, just giving you a heads up that there are supports welded in the way if you go to use alternate set of holes already there on the chassis from the factory.

Good luck, that's a great frame. nice chassis and it's worth the trouble.

No issues other than grinding under the platform.

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I didn't have any trouble at all with the 301cc block. My 860 even had three sets of mounting holes already drilled and the new engine bolted right up with one of the predrilled holes. everything went very easy.

as far as the auger gear case, my best guess is that it is steel construction. seems plenty beefy though.

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I put the 340cc 11hp greyhound on an 1983 Cub Cadet which has a very similar handle setup as the simplicity, except even more enclosed
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I didn't have any trouble at all with the 301cc block. My 860 even had three sets of mounting holes already drilled and the new engine bolted right up with one of the predrilled holes. everything went very easy.

as far as the auger gear case, my best guess is that it is steel construction. seems plenty beefy though.
Right, your holes lined up better but you needed new pulleys. I was able to use the stock pulley perfectly from the 860 on the Predator 212 but needed to grind the underside. Either way you gotta fo something to accomodate the swap. Yours was extra money, mine was extra labor. I like yours much better in this case because the grinding was a lot of work.

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Carl... that's a sweet looking machine. Was this the factory color scheme or did you change it ? Looks very nice.

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Carl... that's a sweet looking machine. Was this the factory color scheme or did you change it ? Looks very nice.

I changed up the colors. the factory colors were cub cadet cream and yellow and the tractor section was black.
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