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1963 ariens engine swap

i have a 63 ariens that i recently saved from the scrap heap
i was going to try to get the old tecumseh 6hp to start
looking at it today, i found the carb is no good and other problems
i have removed the engine from the ariens
i have a 2004 murray with a good 8hp tecumseh motor
i have a question before i take the engine out of the murray
the base of the old engine is thin and the 8 horse is about maybe a half inch thick, i will need to drill out the studs and use longer bolts
will the shaft be higher than the old engine because of the thicker base?
looks like the old pulley can go on new engine
the newer engine looks almost like the old one
any other problems i might run into besides the chute rod?
i just don't want to take out the engine if it's not going to work on the ariens

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Why not repower with a $100 harbor freight predator???

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Yea, the 8 will most likely by taller. I agree go with the $100 Harbor Freight. Then you will have 2 working machines and can surely get more than $100 for the old blower when you sell it. If you keep it then having 2 fully functional is good too.

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Why not repower with a $100 harbor freight predator???
i hear bad things about those engines
my murray was made in china, very cheaply made
i always had good luck with tecumseh engines
i,m also not too crazy about briggs either but my favorite is kohler K's
i,m kinda old school, i still use pay phones and play records
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I agree with the aforementioned harbour freight motor. It's a great amount of power & torque for merely $100.
Most likely it will be higher but that shouldn't be a problem. You can adjust the belt tensioner accordingly, or just be a new belt. The pulley is another minor thing because you can simply order a new one if need be.
I forget the bolt pattern of those motors and of the Ariens but they might line up, in which case you can be able to just swap it out without issue

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i hear bad things about those engines
Where??? There is almost nothing but praise on this forum...

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thats what i would do. the only people that have problems with these engines are people that have never used them, there are a few clone bashers on this forum but i wont mention there user names because i would like to keep my membership. after using a real honda and a honda clone i can tell you the performance(in terms of power) is better on the predators, they run and start just as well as the hondas, they are well built and will last a long time. find me one bad opinion of this engine from someone whos actually used one and try to prove me wrong. you will have a hard time
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i hear bad things about those engines
my murray was made in china, very cheaply made
i always had good luck with tecumseh engines
i,m also not too crazy about briggs either but my favorite is kohler K's
i,m kinda old school, i still use pay phones and play records
The only ones bashing the Honda clones are the people who never used them. I own 3 of them and all 3 of them work great.
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I just did the swap on a 67 ( i think)!sno thro from the 4hp tech to a 208cc chonda . Bolt pattern was the same, shaft height was the same
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i have a 63 ariens that i recently saved from the scrap heap
i was going to try to get the old tecumseh 6hp to start
looking at it today, i found the carb is no good and other problems
i have removed the engine from the ariens
i have a 2004 murray with a good 8hp tecumseh motor
i have a question before i take the engine out of the murray
the base of the old engine is thin and the 8 horse is about maybe a half inch thick, i will need to drill out the studs and use longer bolts
will the shaft be higher than the old engine because of the thicker base?
looks like the old pulley can go on new engine
the newer engine looks almost like the old one
any other problems i might run into besides the chute rod?
i just don't want to take out the engine if it's not going to work on the ariens
Crank height will be the same, You will have to use longer bolts to attach the engine. You will also have to relocate the engine about 1.5" back from the original holes, as the 8hp block is bigger. Swap is Do-able without too much trouble.
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