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1970s Ariens 10000 series with thrown rod

I've got a 1970s era big orange Ariens 10000 model snow thrower that sadly I believe has a thrown rod (white smoke coming out before stop, clunk sound, can't pull start the engine, auger moves fine).

I've read that the Predator 212 engine is a good replacement but if it is reasonable to repair the existing engine, I'd be happy with that too.

If anyone has things I could look for to tell me the engine is not worth repairing (e.g. block cracked, likely crankshaft damage, etc) I'd appreciate it.

Also, if replacing the thrown rod requires more than basic disassembly/reassembly skills and basic tools I'd appreciate knowing that.

And finally - if doable, a pointer to a good "howto" web page or book would be appreciated.

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Jim
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Sorry for your loss.

I'm going to move this to Re-Powering. There are two schools of thought. One is to go with another Tec engine (new or used) to keep it original and the other is to use whatever you have or can get and have a working snowblower.

The predator is the common replacement because it's new technology, easy starting, likely better on gas and CHEAP to buy.

The Tec you have can be repaired. You want to look behind the electric starter and see if the block is cracked. The photo below is my "ventilated" 832. There are blocks available new and used if you'd want to change it over but that's IMHO a lot of work.
Compared to installing a 6.5hp Predator, I'd go predator but that's me.

There are also 11 horse new Tecumseh engines for $115 and a little less if you shop but the crankshaft is tapered for a generator. It's a great engine for very little cash if you like to tinker. There are threads about making those fit too.

Small Engine Surplus.com OH318EA-222712 Tecumseh 11 HP

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Predator and impeller kit. You will be so impressed vs how it worked with old engine
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screw the Predator idea// that warehouse has another 11hp Tec brand new for $89.

I am not a fan of Predator or any other clone let alone a "real" Honduh engine. Tecumseh, Kohler, Briggs or nothing.

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screw the Predator idea// that warehouse has another 11hp Tec brand new for $89.

I am not a fan of Predator or any other clone let alone a "real" Honduh engine. Tecumseh, Kohler, Briggs or nothing.
with all do respect, what is the quality difference between a honda clone engine or an offfshore built engine labeled as briggs or tech ?

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with all do respect, what is the quality difference between a honda clone engine or an offfshore built engine labeled as briggs or tech ?
The Honda clones are typically better quality compared to Briggs engines in my opinion because they all have cast iron bores and ball bearing supported crankshafts, most Briggs I've seen have "kool bore" cylinders which is just plain aluminum and bushing supported cranks. Clone parts are cheaper and are easier to get if you look around, Briggs parts are expensive. Honda clones start easier and run smoother then most Briggs engine. Tecumseh vs Honda clones clones win hands down no contest
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If anyone has things I could look for to tell me the engine is not worth repairing (e.g. block cracked, likely crankshaft damage, etc) I'd appreciate it.
If the block isn't cracked or broken behind the electric starter you can almost certainly repair the engine. A lot of times even if it is you can still fix it.

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Also, if replacing the thrown rod requires more than basic disassembly/reassembly skills and basic tools I'd appreciate knowing that.
You really don't need much. You should have a puller to remove the flywheel, but even that isn't totally necessary.

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I am not a fan of Predator or any other clone let alone a "real" Honduh engine. Tecumseh, Kohler, Briggs or nothing.
You don't work on this stuff for a living do you?
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