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Need section on choosing a machine

I see brand forums and a review forum, but I have not
found a section on choosing a machine.
This tempted me into asking in the introduction forum
even though it's not a good fit there.

Choosing a machine could get to be a touchy subject,
but it might work if brand criticism is limited.
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I mean it would be a good fit for the general section would it not?

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you could use the search function and find enough info to keep you reading for a month.

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This would need to be discussed with the mod team but in the mean time I might suggest using search for this. Brand loyalty can create some heated arguments.
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This would need to be discussed with the mod team but in the mean time I might suggest using search for this. Brand loyalty can create some heated arguments.
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One exists already
See my sig

No one can argue with pure data.. heated or otherwise. To be loyal to a brand must imply being loyal to their data.

Any well-informed consumer should be doing this anyway.. I've just made it trivially easy for them to be well-informed.. just look at the spreadsheet.
Let the data speak for itself... but first it has to be available. Now it is.
Of course this data always was available on the vendors websites.. but it takes the average person 3000 mouse clicks and 20 hours to get to it all because it is nested deep into the vendors websites.

It is non controversial and purely evidence based using vendors specs - I took enormous care to make it that way for the reasons you mentioned
It is basically data-mining from the vendor's own specs and presenting them in a table
Nothing more - Nothing less - No controversy - Intentionally

The only added information I provide is to divide one metric by another. Nothing controversial there. If they don't like the result.. change the numbers.

The vendor is in total absolute control of their specs or lack thereof they are also in total control of their pricing strategy.

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Is there any way I can have a longer sig please

If you look at my current sig it points to 3 important threads that most people need to be aware of

I've just created a 4th one which is aimed at First-time buyers and need to point to it - The urls eat up too many characters

The only way I can point to the FAQ is by dropping my reference to Scott's thread to give me more characters to play with
I will do that if I must...but that would be a pity. Indeed I will do that very soon because I need to get the FAQ out there and active
EDIT: I just did that... I can add Scott back if I get the space on my sig... If not .. I can't

Over time it will cover all the points and questions raised repeatedly. When this happens, some people try to help but give answers of mixed quality
By having a FAQ we can point the member to a thread that they can (and should) read from top to bottom

At any given moment each topic will be the best answer we have
Over time we can back-edit those topics and converge on the DEFINITIVE first-time buyer guide

When anybody asks a question that is covered in the FAQ we simply point them to it
If they ask a new question that was not covered in the FAQ - we can add a topic for that and the whole FAQ improves over time

The trouble is I can't point to it with my sig

I want to be able to do that so that people become aware of it by osmosis and hopefully some members will contribute to it

When I spot a member who is new to snowblowers I can rapidly say... click on the FAQ in my sig
If it's not in my sig I will need go hunt it down, find it, copy the link, go back to the initial question and then post the link.
That is inefficient and pointless

Make sense?

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Here's a short summary:
- Honda if you can justify/afford it.
- Ariens or Toro otherwise (this starts heated discussions, but both are fine).
- If single stage, then Toro.
- Tracks only if you need them (steep driveway or gravel).
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I think it is a good idea. There was a discussion a couple years ago about requiring new posters with questions about what machine to buy to FIRST describe their situation by listing at least:

1. Geographic Area (so snow depth, frequency, consistency could be guessed at and so local members could chime in with their personal experience with various machines in that very locale);

2. Driveway surface (gravel vs dirt vs asphalt vs concrete);

3. Driveway length and width (to determine width and hp of machine);

4. Driveway slope (to determine track vs wheel vs wheel with chains);

5. National Area, nearby city, etc. (to determine likely machine, parts and service availability);

6. Whether or not the poster is mechanically inclined/interested in learning how to repair or rehab a machine (to answer the used vs new question); and

7. The age and physical health of the intended user (to determine whether or not the turn assist features will be needed/beneficial).

One of the benefits of a "Which machine to buy?" general subforum would be to sticky these questions and to state that inquiries without stating the foregoing information wastes everyones time and may be ignored.
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Is there any way I can have a longer sig please

If you look at my current sig it points to 3 important threads that most people need to be aware of

I've just created a 4th one which is aimed at First-time buyers and need to point to it - The urls eat up too many characters
Stuart,
try "tiny url"

http://tinyurl.com

You can choose your own characters, or just let the site make the URL.
As an example, I just changed the link of this thread from:

(w.w.w.snowblowerforum.com/forum/site-news-feedback/118681-need-section-choosing-machine.html#post1300417)

to:

http://tinyurl.com/scottest3


Nice job on the data mining you have been doing!

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Here's a short summary:
- Honda if you can justify/afford it.
- Ariens or Toro otherwise (this starts heated discussions, but both are fine).
- If single stage, then Toro.
- Tracks only if you need them (steep driveway or gravel).
I think this is the wrong thread for that though
he (sorry I can't see usernames once I start typing so all I can say is "he") he was asking about creating a sub-forum dedicated to getting answers like that
I just realized that's exactly what I created but I created it as a thread not a sub-forum
He wasn't looking for the answers here
Notice we are on the feedback thread talking to (presumably) admins and moderators
So we better nip this one in the bud real quick... at least in THIS thread
It's a great thing to discuss...but not here
Agreed? $0.02
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