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Gilson / Wards snowblower difficult to start

I have an old Gilson/Wardís snowblower (from 1978 I think). Itís extremely difficult to start, especially at the beginning of the season, although even after the first start of the season it will take 10-20 pulls to get going the rest of the season. I have cleaned the carb a couple years ago, and since then always used fuel stabilizer, run it dry at the end of the season, and change the oil yearly. I open the choke all the way to start.

Any suggestions on how to improve starting? Am I doing it wrong?
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Open the choke.
You should be closing the choke.
Hard starting as long as you have good spark is usually carb related.

Before you cleaned the carb did it start hard?


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I mean closed (pulled choke lever out all the way).

Yes it was difficult to start prior to the carb cleaning. I thought it might improve but it didn't.
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You sure you have good spark?
It could be fuel related but I think carb considering it's age.


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Does it have a primer bulb? I know when my MTD started to take several pulls one winter for the last few times of use I was going to pull the carb and clean it that spring before I put it away and that's when I seen the primer bulb hose had split on the end and came off the carb. Cut the end off put it back on to make sure that was the issue, it was so I replaced the hose. First pull ever since.

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I can try replacing the spark plug. Although it probably less than 5 hours on it, it is a couple years old. When I replaced it previously it didn't help though.

No primer on this that I know of, only choke.
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How did you clean the carburetor? There are different levels of clean, based upon the way that it gets cleaned, and the frequency of those cleanings.

It would also be helpful to know the exact steps you are taking to start, and any symptoms as it tries to start up.

My steps are: put throttle in middle, full choke, primer bulb 3 times, give a sharp pull and gradually remove choke as it comes to life.
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If it is really cold in my shed, I give the slightest sniff of ether to fire up for the first pull....for some reason the Chonda on my Ariens 7-24 is really cold blooded. With the Tecs and Briggs not so much.
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To clean the carb, I disassembled, sprayed the parts with carb cleaner, and wiped any bad spots with a rag, although in general it looked pretty clean.

When I tried to start last night for the first time, I pulled the choke out all the way, set throttle to middle, pulled 20-30 times. No firing of the engine at all. Waited 5 minutes, pulled another 10 times, still no firing. Waited another 5 minutes, pulled another 10 times, finally it fired and started right away on the first firing. Pushed choke in, set throttle to fast and then used it. No stalling once it is running, although I have to pull the throttle knob up occasionally since it seems to fall down while it's running due to the vibrations.
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You pulled on it 40 or 50 times to start it?
This will repeat the next time you start it?

Still believe it's carb. Float needs adjusted?
Will it idle once warm? Not on fast.


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