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Tecumseh starter help Please....

Hi all. I have a problem with my Ariens model 932105. My electric starter went bad so I pulled it off. The number on the starter said 37000. I ordered one from amazon and installed but did not engage the flywheel. Ok so I took that one off and inspected the flywheel (from where starter goes in pulling the cord to check) for chips missing teeth all looked good. I then thought maybe I have the wrong starter that someone put on (as I bought machine used) so I ordered one out from Jacks Small engines. I gave them my Tecumseh engine model number HMSK85 Spec number 155912c. The new starter arrived part number 33329e I installed this and flywheel will not engage. What am I missing please? I searched and someone said they had an issue with starter dogs (what are these could this be whats going on)? I always thought the starter motor pushed gear forward to hit and turn flywhheel? Not sure what to look for? One last thing when I use the pull cord it fires right up so am not totally without use of machine. Again Thanks!!!

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The dogs usually relate to the manual pull start assembly. Does the gear on the orig starter match the gear on the new starter? If you manually turn the gears does it spin up to the same hight on the shaft?


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I would line them up and look for differences.
Test them on the bench and see if the starter gear is moving to the end of the shaft to engage the flywheel.
Have you checked the starter electrical circuit?


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Two things, and I am just brainstorming here:

1. Check to make sure your flywheel is not loose. I doubt it, because I doubt it would run. But if the flywheel moved away from the engine, the starter gear might not be able to reach it.

2. Check where the starter is mounting on the engine. Did it slide "back" or in some direction so the gear is further from the flywheel?

Finally, compare the gear on your old starter to the two you purchased, do they look the same?

Also, when you say it wouldn't start the motor, I assume you hear it just whine (i.e. the electric starter is spinning, but it is not grabbing the teeth on the flywheel)?

Finally (yea, I know this is way out there), try a different extension cord and a different socket/plug to start it from.
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How did you conclude that it was the original Starter itself that "went bad" ?
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How did you conclude that it was the original Starter itself that "went bad" ?
It was not even turning over. When I did remove it and tapped the side it would spin.
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I would line them up and look for differences.
Test them on the bench and see if the starter gear is moving to the end of the shaft to engage the flywheel.
Have you checked the starter electrical circuit?
Yes I can hear the motor and see the gear push out when out of machine. The only circuit is the switch to motor that I replaced right?
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Two things, and I am just brainstorming here:

1. Check to make sure your flywheel is not loose. I doubt it, because I doubt it would run. But if the flywheel moved away from the engine, the starter gear might not be able to reach it.
This is almost what I thought as well at first the wrong starter not enough throw. As crazy as that sounds?
Still no clue why this is not working for me?
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The dogs usually relate to the manual pull start assembly. Does the gear on the orig starter match the gear on the new starter? If you manually turn the gears does it spin up to the same hight on the shaft?


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Ahh going out to find out right now!

Same distance 1-3/8" motor sends gear out then retracts but will not stay out continuously (this I assume normal).

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The starter motor that had worked was a 37000. Did you order another 37000 from Amazon ??
Any chance there was any material (washers, shim stock, ... ?) under the starter to shim it out some and help it engage the flywheel ??

In looking up the engine on two different sites it looks like the 33329 is the correct one.
What are you using for an extension cord ?? Is it the short one for the snowblower or possibly a longer one with thinner wire ??

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