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post #1 of 17 Old 01-16-2018, 05:37 PM Thread Starter
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rubber donut came off of drive wheel.

Hey friends......I came up with a new one for me today......a customer came in with a Yardman ( MTD) that wouldn't move. I sold it to him a month ago and the tranny was perfect. I put it into the service position, and the rubber was missing from the aluminum wheel......was down on the other end of the shaft. A lot of aluminum dust on the belly pan and grooves on the drive plate. It took a lot of force and vice grips to get the rubber back in the groove...and then a mallet to seat it good. I asked the owner if he was shifting while holding down on the drive handle....thats the only thing I can think of that would roll the rubber of of the drive disc....he denied it.....but I don't believe it. I told him not to do that.......
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Sounds like your customer is hard headed and a liar. So is he expecting you to fix it for free?
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I can shift on the fly when mowing with my Snapper rear engine rider - you can't do that with a snowblower with that sort of transmission?
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I fixed it for free, by just putting the rubber back on the wheel.....I'm not going to cover the cost of the damaged disc though........it will work if he doesn't try shifting on the fly......
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Always shift my big Craftsman blower on the fly. Never an issue. The Ariens machines don't seem to like it.

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When the rubber disc is jammed down on the aluminum drive plate, and you force it sideways when it is engaged....the rubber will roll off of the disc.....at least the MTD just did!
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No problem doing shift on the fly with an Ariens circa 2001 going up gears. Never down.
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Common sense would say changing speeds with the drive engaged is not good. The wheel is spinning in one direction and your trying to slide it in another is not the best. Like you surmised, he rolled the rubber off the wheel. And continued to use the machine. That metal to metal had to make some seriously bad noise. And He's responsible for damaging the drive disc, not you. People are getting so ridiculous these days.




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No problem doing shift on the fly with an Ariens circa 2001 going up gears. Never down.
Yup. This is from my Ariens manual, from ~2000:
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IMPORTANT: DO NOT change motion from forward to reverse with clutch engaged. Forward speed can be changed without declutching.
Anecdotally, I can say that my machine shifts to higher forward speeds easily, while moving. But I feel more resistance if I try going to a slower forward speed. So I don't do that while the drive lever is engaged.

My theory is that, when going to faster forward speeds, the rubber wheel is moving away from the center of the aluminum disk, which it kind of "wants" to do. But when trying to change to a slower forward speed, you're trying to drag the rubber wheel back towards the center of the aluminum disk, thus meeting more resistance.

I typically disengage the drive lever when doing any shifting. But sometimes I will go to faster forward speeds while underway, like if I realize the engine & augers can handle more, during a long straight run. It only needs a light push of the shift lever to do speed up.

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Sounds like your customer is hard headed and a liar. So is he expecting you to fix it for free?
And that is the bottom line. From what I am told, this is not an uncommon problem. People are stupid.
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