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bottom of housing bent up

My neighbor asked me to look at his Ariens Compact 24. He doesn't know the exact history, other than the PO broke it then let it sit for a few years. Once I get the motor checked out, I need to work on the auger housing. It looks like the machine was run for a while without skid shoes, and the bottom of the bucket, including the scraper bar, bent up a bit, causing the auger to hit the bucket and blow out the shear pin. My question is how to bend the bucket lip back down again? Should I pound on it, or try to bend it back a bit? The picture kind of shows how the left auger (right in this pic) comes in contact with the scraper bar screw head, and the other auger does a bit too.

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In the center pic the scraper looks fairly level so there should be lots of clearance. I wonder if the auger assembly has dropped. Perhaps lift up on the auger near the side bearings and check for play. The gear box does not have a brace and should not move up and down since it looks like a long auger shaft. Perhaps it needs a brace if there is up and down movement with the gearbox.

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thanks Town for the reply. There is no noticeable play in the auger assembly itself. Further info: I removed the shear pin from the right side auger (it was bent and tough to remove) and now the 2 augers can freely spin on the shaft. But the impeller is difficult to spin. I have the belt off of the engine, but still on the impeller pulley, and even using the belt by hand it is tough to rotate. I assume there is a problem in the impeller bearing? The blades themselves are not rubbing the housing. I've not yet worked on Ariens auger assemblies.

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There is a brake shoe that touches the impeller pulley. If you press the impeller clutch lever you will release the brake and since the crank impeller pulley does not have the belt(s) attached the impeller should spin unless the bearing is seized or the gearbox has failed. I use a cable tie to keep the clutch applied to use for this purpose and impeller operation with engine running for whatever reason I want to see the impeller or auger operation.

Those impeller bearings can fail and seize so no movement in shaft, or they can wear and get loose to allow sideways impeller shaft movement. Also check the oil level in the gearbox. You cannot see the proper level so you need a dipstick to measure oil level from top of gearbox under fill plug and gasket. Your owner manual will give the distance, mine is between 2.38" and 2.63" from the top of plug opening. The thin red L3 oil can leak from the impeller seal on the rear of gearbox and could seize the gearbox.

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Here is a pic of the trans of my machine showing the brake at the very bottom of the pic. The brake is actively pressing against the impeller pulley in this pic. You will see the two rivets that hold the friction material to the brake housing, and just above is the white roller that moves toward the brake when impeller clutch is applied to release the brake.
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thanks Town, I had forgot about the brake until I went back out. Duh. So I removed the auger housing from the main housing, and then the auger assembly from its housing. Even with the impact wrench on low pressure, I broke 2 of the 4 screws holding the housings together (or they were already broke), and 3 of the 6 screws attaching the housing to the 2 auger shaft (rake shaft) bushings. The impeller bearing seems good, and the impeller shaft seems straight still. Then I finally got a good look at the scraper bar, ugh. Someone had used the machine without a bar for quite some time, then with the bar but without the skid shoes (I think) for a while as well. Anyways, I bent and pounded the bottom of the housing, with the scraper bar attached, to a point where I will test fit the auger assembly again. We'll see how much of a difference I made. The attached pics are before bending.

Couple of questions, how are the auger shaft bushings attached to the shaft, I just see a plastic sleeve and the bushing. Also, I am doing this on the cheap for a neighbor, so should I replace the impeller and auger bearings, or try to reuse? I know if it were my machine, I would replace (and also blast and paint everything). Also, does anyone have a used recoil starter assembly for sale, there was none on this machine, and I hate using the electric starter during maintenance.

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Which engine does it have ? Canít tell from the pics, is it Tecumseh, Briggs it the AX which is made by LCT

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I have one of those Workmate tables ... They are the greatest, .. I just used mine today for welding on, as well as grinding on.
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Daunte: it has the B&S 205cc engine, see pic. Let me know if you need other pics or info.

Oneacer: yep, I love my WorkMate tables. I have 2 full size tables, and 2 table top versions, all bought for $10 or less each.
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I have a blower with that same engine, Iíll see if I can find a part number and see if eBay has one, B&S unfortunately rivets a lot of there starters on so to change the pull cord you need to remove the housing which apparently your buddy did NOT want to do, May have to pop rivet the new one on.

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