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post #1 of 23 Old 08-23-2014, 02:16 PM Thread Starter
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free Craftsman Trac-Plus 5HP ingested rock damage

got this for free from a neighbor, he got it for free from another neighbor. someone tried to patch the cracks and bulges in the impeller housing with white epoxy ceramic. It really didn't need that, as I'm chipping the white epoxy off with a hammer/chisel, I'm able to flatten the bulged sheetmetal with the sledgehammer. may just have the cracks welded shut- or run it as is. the guy said it ran really well, starts right up. we'll see.

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this after chipping off left side





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You could always keep your eyes open for a donor bucket. I'd bet that a wheeled bucket might work as well.

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I'm going to run it as is for now. was able to chip away all the white epoxy, then did body work to the bulge and cracked area. basically pounded it back in.

the engine would not start. would run on gas poured in plug hole, and on the primer bulb, but not by itself. the carb jets were plugged. so I pulled the carb, removed the float, needle valve, idle and main jet needle screws, and sprayed all the passages out with carb cleaner. reinstalled the carb, it fired right up.

low gear didn't work, but all other gears did. had to adjust the shift linkage so the friction disk hit the flywheel properly to get low gear. now all the gears work too. it looks like they adjusted it for maximum reverse speed and sacrificed low gear first 1, and were using forward gears 2-6

it also had a broken shear pin and the other shear pin replaced with a long wood screw with a threaded nut on it. removed those 2 things and have to get 2 shear pins. then I got a little impatient and snapped off 4 of the 7 rusted scraper bar nuts on the small carriage bolts. I adjusted the scraper bar up all the way because I have a gravel 2b driveway, no need for the scraper down, and tightened it up with just 3 bolts, ends and center for now. so add 4 small carriage bolts to the hardware needs list, with the shear pins.

just didn't want to be heating those small nuts with the torch to get hem off, having just spilled gas in the area. safety first.

but now she's runnin' fine my 409 !





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The engine sounds great, good job. Did you check the impeller to see if the blades are bent after eating the rock ? If there is a wide gap between the blades and housing, a Clarence kit would definitely help and easier to install while it's warm out.

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strangely enough the impeller blades are ok, they must be hardened steel. the housing is thin sheet metal spot welded to save money/weight. yes I thought about the impeller paddle kit to add throwing power. but to be honest if someone threw me the right amount of money I'd unload this machine. I like the older stuff to fix up, only took this because it was the neighbor had it, it was free, and figured I'd tinker with a trac drive for once.



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Hey, free is a great price. And by all means making something work is a positive thing. And insofar as a comparison between a Honda and this with a HF engine, it might be a interesting comparison. Too bad you are as far away as you are, we could do that.

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I installed the shear pins in the augers, and cutter bar carriage bolts today, the Trac-Plus is ready for winter. my intuition proved correct on the carriage bolts, they did not fit correctly in the cutter bar interface, too tight and would jam the bar, even when they were not tightened with the nuts.
every time that I have to replace original carriage bolts in anything at all, the new replacements from the hardware store never fit right. the square heads are always either too small, or too big, even though the listed size is the same, and thread size is the same.
each individual replacement carriage bolt square head had to be hand ground on 2 sides with a dremel and small disk, to get them to fit.
never should have broken those 4 off. but I got in a hurry and gas was dripping from the carb, with machine tipped up on the chute to work underneath. to torch heat the nuts I'd have to drain the gas from carb and gas tank.

on the upside, the new carriage bolts have a wider flat round head to grab more of the chute metal material and better clamping and holding force on the cutter bar.




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That actually could be a craftsman thing. They love to proprietize things.

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MTD....2 stage(modern 8.5 HP) not my favorite
Honda HS622 TA-B - acquired at an auction- nice machine for it's size.
Toro S-140- Picked it up on trash day... it runs, sort of.
Yamaha YS 240 TB "Ricky" latest Craigslist find- on the bench now.
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