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adding hand grip warmers

i have a Toro 1028 LXE in use for about 8 years now.
great machine no problems and it can really chuck the snow.
i was helping a friend at his house and used his machine for about an hour and really liked the hand grip warmers.
my hands always get cold due to poor circulation.
is there a way to add hand girp warmers to my 1028 LXE
we are getting buried up here in the Boston area this year with the season to date total at 94 inches i believe and now the bitter cold has arrived (-5 last night with wind chill at -30)
not having frozen hands and fingers would be nice
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Hi Bucko,

You have an 18 watt alternator on that machine if I read the parts sheet correctly (OEM part #611111).

I believe this translates to about 1.5 Amps output, don't think you will be able to add handwarmers to your machine and run the headlights at the same time at the very least, I believe handwarmers require more amps than your stock alternator can provide.

Here's the link I used to find out:
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Installing Heated Grips

Any thoughts on installing heated grips on a 2014 1128OXE. It looks like Toro does sell the parts for the grip, switch and wiring harness. Tough to tell if the wiring harness will fit exactly and split to power the headlight as well. Any thoughts/help would be great. I'm also in the Boston area, getting hammered with snow and cold.
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Any thoughts on installing heated grips on a 2014 1128OXE. It looks like Toro does sell the parts for the grip, switch and wiring harness. Tough to tell if the wiring harness will fit exactly and split to power the headlight as well. Any thoughts/help would be great. I'm also in the Boston area, getting hammered with snow and cold.
Probably best to jot down the engine serial number and call the dealer, he'll be able to tell you if the charging circuit on that engine can handle the extra load and if so where the plug in is. If that model was meant to have optional hand warmers there should be a plug in already wired in the harness for it.
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Hi Rockadode,
that was the big question, how much wattage did my machine put out.
everything i've seen calls for 30-36 watts (2.5 to 3 amps @ 12v) to be able to add hand warmers.
so now the next question would be
can i upgrade the alternator on my 1028 LXE?
any thoughts?
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Hi Rockadode,
that was the big question, how much wattage did my machine put out.
everything i've seen calls for 30-36 watts (2.5 to 3 amps @ 12v) to be able to add hand warmers.
so now the next question would be
can i upgrade the alternator on my 1028 LXE?
any thoughts?
thanks
bucko
google the crap out of it!

look for similar engines or clones that may have a higher output charge coil, make sure to keep all (flywheel) clearances in mind .

Also look for cross-over part numbers and jot them all down, sometimes a standard part has been rebranded and sells for 3 times as much when you go to the dealer because it says toro on the box

you would need about 5 amps output to run warmers and a non LED headlight
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I'll have to check later, but I think the alternator coil under the flywheel on my now dead tecumseh ohsk110-221735d on my Ariens st1128le is rated for 18 watts. It ran both headlight and grips. If I shut the grips off, the light did not change noticeably.

- Ariens st1128LE 924121 with 11.5HP Tecumseh OHSK110-221735D Approx 2004
- Predator chonda 301cc 61415
My last engine rebuild was in the 70's a '64 Corvair turbo Spyder. Back then many friends were motorheads and lent me ring compressors, glaze busters and the like. So I know the concepts.
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I'll have to check later, but I think the alternator coil under the flywheel on my now dead tecumseh ohsk110-221735d on my Ariens st1128le is rated for 18 watts. It ran both headlight and grips. If I shut the grips off, the light did not change noticeably.
With my new engine, no alternator, I'm going to use a UPS gell cell to at least run the grips, and later replace the incandescent headlight with LED.

- Ariens st1128LE 924121 with 11.5HP Tecumseh OHSK110-221735D Approx 2004
- Predator chonda 301cc 61415
My last engine rebuild was in the 70's a '64 Corvair turbo Spyder. Back then many friends were motorheads and lent me ring compressors, glaze busters and the like. So I know the concepts.
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18 watts barely runs a headlight. If you added hand warmers the light would be dim and the grips would never produce any heat. It's the same if you tried to put something bigger than an 18 watt light on there. 18 watt systems are usually a one wire output as they are designed to run a light and nothing more.
The higher the output watt rating of the light the less light you'd get as the limited stator couldn't produce enough current to heat up the filament or drive the LEDs.

That OHSK110 engine shows having a dual connector output and it would be 3amp and 5 amp. Separate circuit for the headlight and for the hand warmers.
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does that alternator fit the original machine in question? - retrofit the 3/5 amp one
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