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auger gear oil for '2000 MTD 10/24

Hello all, I am going to change the fluid in my dad's machine tomorrow, and as I knowthat my Powershift uses 85w90 Gear Oil , I just was hoping someone could "verify" that the MTD use the same stuff .

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Some use oil and some use grease. A lot of MTD machines use more of a '00' grease. It is like a blend of gear oil and wheel bearing grease. Too thick to be called an oil and too runny to be called a grease.

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Some use oil and some use grease. A lot of MTD machines use more of a '00' grease. It is like a blend of gear oil and wheel bearing grease. Too thick to be called an oil and too runny to be called a grease.
Thanks Shryp, I'll have to ask him to look for his manual to see what his specific model used.

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It is probably MTD Grease 737-0168, Alvania EP 00


The 00 grease is available from Stens.

"00" Grease / Snapper 7061017yp

You may be able to get something similar locally at a NAPA or Robbins.

If the seals are in good shape you could use a non synthetic 80w-90. It is a better worm gear lubricant, but it is a risk. You don't want to have it run out through leaky shaft seals in this weather.

I know the Toro's used 80w-90 for a long time on the 824's and then switched to the 00 grease. Many people have speculated it was to eliminate complaints form leaking gear box seals. MTD is probably thinking the along the same lines.

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It is probably MTD Grease 737-0168, Alvania EP 00


The 00 grease is available from Stens.

"00" Grease / Snapper 7061017yp

You may be able to get something similar locally at a NAPA or Robbins.

If the seals are in good shape you could use a non synthetic 80w-90. It is a better worm gear lubricant, but it is a risk. You don't want to have it run out through leaky shaft seals in this weather.

I know the Toro's used 80w-90 for a long time on the 824's and then switched to the 00 grease. Many people have speculated it was to eliminate complaints form leaking gear box seals. MTD is probably thinking the along the same lines.

Thanks, ..And I was hoping I could do a quick drain and fill for him like I did on my own last weekend

It surely won't "drain" if it's grease.. will have to wait till I have more time.

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Yea, only real way to clean those out it to take them apart. You could squirt some new in there though to make sure it doesn't go dry.

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My opinion---- and only mine is if you need to change the auger lubricant, you have bigger problems. The auger gear & worm are sealed so there should be no contamination present. The most important thing is to be sure that mechanism never is operated without some type of lubricant.

AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT THOSE GEARS BE CHECKED especially when the machine is new. I had to completely rebuild mine (32" Bolen) some years ago because I never checked those gears. I believe the machine was delivered DRY and I learned about it only after gear failures.

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Well, you guys hit it on the nose, it's the 737-0168 and it's printed in has manual, it says 2 oz. and do not overfill. now that he found that manual and dropped over with it I told him we would split the case as part of the maint. before we put the machine away.

There are no problems as of yet, it's been great and he had the receipt clipped in the manual from Nov. 2001 so we know it's been 14 years and never been done . He does his oil changes every 20 to 25 hrs and checks his belts, and oil the axle and hex shaft but that has been it. Basically only neglected the front end. Seems like he got real lucky too as it's still going strong, the seals must be good !!

It's way past time to replace that grease. It's just too cold right now at his place to do it so long as there is no problem it can wait a couple months.

Thanks to all for the insight.

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As Shryp suggested you may want to squirt in some grease. If it were me, I would add about 1-2 oz of 80w-90. That would moisten up things and with that small amount you should not have to worry about leaks.
I opened mine a few years ago and IIRC there was no gasket. The grease was still pliable. It also look like the grease was pushed away from the gears. If it does not stay on the contact points it cant do to much. My Toro has a gasket. Good Luck.

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I see Tractor Supply is listing 00 grease in a brand I have not heard of, considerably cheaper (kinda like the walmart oil?) and I am wondering since it is 00 it should be up to the same service standards as the MTD branded stuff, right ?

Anyone have any knowlege on this ? I can get that locally I have a tractor supply only ten miles away.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...ndle-grease-00

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