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1962 Ariens 10ML35 pneumatic tire retrofit DECISION MADE

well I bit the bullet on this and excuse my French, decided to stop dicking around, and bought the proper pin-on 3-bolt early Ariens hubs for my 10ML35. they weren't cheap as they are becoming somewhat more scarce, and shipping is an issue, so had to ante up. but it's really the "right way" to modify these. also bought a pair of decent tires w/chains for an Ariens 3-bolt hub.

obtained a few difference axles but all required cutting to size, or were too short, and when the length was cut down to fit, would then require drilling out the cotter pin hole larger to 1/4". the big tires/axles I got from a later machine were trial fit and looked really brutus on there, but changed the rake of the machine making it look jacked up in the back, like a 1975 Camaro with air shocks circa 1978...

so decided to stick with the factory setup albeit 2x the money but it will be right. actually not too bad a deal. $26 for the tires and chains, and $50 for the early 3 bolt hubs. not a bad deal considering a set of new chains is $20-$25 and any snowblower should have them in my neck of the woods.

still have the monster 8" rims with tires/axles from a late model machine with really awesome tread on them, to try on one of my larger machines. but for now I'm keeping the 10ML35 bone stock parts.

the early hubs are just over 4" long, while the later hubs are only 3" long. this creates a problem as too engage the inner keyway, the axle must be pushed all the way in, leaving a space on the outside. would need a spacer or built up with washers, but then this moves the tire in about 1" or more on each side, towards the machine.

rather than mess with all that, decided to just pin the factory setup on there and save a lot of hassle.




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Maybe a little late, but why not pick up a later model 10,000 series axle with a differential? I picked up a complete axle set up with hubs and differential off ebay for around $40. The swap from my solid axle took a few hours to do but it looks completely factory. I researched a little and found a sealed bearing the right size so I could keep the original bearing carriers and not use those later model bronze bearings too just to keep that original look.
I actually had a spare set up that I sent to forum member db130 and he just did the swap this year too and had great results.

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I've seen those differential/axles on Ebay for sale, but wanted to keep it simple, with the factory OEM 10M pneumatic axle hubs, it's an easy slip off, slip on, pin-on deal. don't even have to get inside the machine or remove the bottom cover. it all goes on from the outside.

this machine is small and nimble enough, that a solid axle is ok with me. it's not too heavy or awkward to turn really.

reading up on the Ariens history site it appears the pneumatic tires/hubs were standard on the L55, but optional on the L35. the solid and pneumatic hubs are different, the only similarity is their length. the tire size is slightly taller on the air tires.

in this case keeping the factory oem design was just so much easier, I went that route. and got the tires and chains too. it takes literally 5 minutes each side, to install both hubs and tires.

hunted around and even found the little Ariens hub caps and washers that are supposed to be on there, mine were missing.

is the later 10000 series differential a complete bolt in swap ? or are there mods that have to be made to get it to work ? when I looked at the exploded view of the differential parts for the 10000, it just seemed like a lot of parts to have in there, just to turn easier. it's not really a mod I'd be looking to install, if a machine already had a solid axle.




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Gilson 55012 8/26 gear drive
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Cub Cadet 268 8/26
Yard-Man Snowbird 7040-0 5/22
Ariens 10M-L35 3.5/24
New Holland/Gilson Unitrol 8/26
(2) AMF Polar Bear 7/26 3-stage project/parts machines

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It is a bolt in swap, no mods made at all to the tractor. That's what I loved about it. The only thing I wanted to avoid was using those bronze axle bushings and triangle bearing carriers from the later models but the solid axle diameter is smaller than the differential axle so I couldn't use my original sealed bearings. It took me a while but after a few hours on the web I located the proper bearing size (which carried an Ariens part number coincidentally 05409300 or stens 230-287) and the job was done using the original '62 bearing carriers.
I love those little Ariens hubcaps too man! An nos one popped up on ebay last year and I had to have it! Keep those old babies going GWB...

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Ray, I get bronze sleeve bearings at the hardware store.
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this is good reference info to have, for future use...thanks for posting, guys.




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1967 S-242 Snowbird 4/24
AMF Dynamark Luminaire 5362 8/26 3-stage
Craftsman Drift Breaker 10/32 3-stage
Gilson 55012 8/26 gear drive
Ariens 910010 8/32
Cub Cadet 268 8/26
Yard-Man Snowbird 7040-0 5/22
Ariens 10M-L35 3.5/24
New Holland/Gilson Unitrol 8/26
(2) AMF Polar Bear 7/26 3-stage project/parts machines
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I got the air tires, hubs, chains on this machine...
wow did that go on there nice and easy...
what a breeze !
for once...




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1967 S-242 Snowbird 4/24
AMF Dynamark Luminaire 5362 8/26 3-stage
Craftsman Drift Breaker 10/32 3-stage
Gilson 55012 8/26 gear drive
Ariens 910010 8/32
Cub Cadet 268 8/26
Yard-Man Snowbird 7040-0 5/22
Ariens 10M-L35 3.5/24
New Holland/Gilson Unitrol 8/26
(2) AMF Polar Bear 7/26 3-stage project/parts machines
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I got the air tires, hubs, chains on this machine...
wow did that go on there nice and easy...
what a breeze !
for once...
Can you post a picture of the final product?

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