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Question help just got a free TORO 824 i have some questions

owner said it just stopped running on him...

1.There's a new plug in it but what is the proper plug for this machine?

2. i posted a pic the controls say make sure in "N" and "off" what does it mean by "off"

3.i checked for spark by resting the head ie where the socket goes on the plug against a bolt on the machine but i dont always get spark if i do its very faint. am i not making ground or is there an issue? My other machine generates more spark using the same method



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for all flathead engines i run an ngk br2lm. rj19lm is an acceptable alternative but i refuse to use champion plugs in my equipment if an ngk is available
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On and off are for the ignition. On will spark the plug and off will ground out on the block. The N is part of the transmission. I believe those use 2 friction plates so if you go to 1/2/3 it will go forward and if you pull it back to R1/R2 it will go backwards. The N just locks in the the middle of the 2 plates.

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I think for the interlock and starting the "Off" it's referring to is power to the auger.
It wouldn't make any sense to have the ignition switch in Off, if you're trying to start the engine.
In the instruction manual it says to "Move the auger drive control to disengage" but that may be On and Off on the control panel, not sure.

See page 10 - - > http://download.snowblowerguide.com/...0724%20824.pdf

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yes, where it says "control levers must be in "N" and "Off" to start engine", that is *not* referring to the "off" next to the key..there are two different offs!

In this photo:

http://s27.postimg.org/hx4jn5daa/IMG...621_233518.jpg

the lever on the left needs to be in "N" to start, the key needs to be "On", and somewhere else, not visable in that photo, is a lever for something else that needs to be "off"..probably an auger control lever somewhere else on the machine.

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i have the auger in off... im not getting spark i assume its a ignition module or safety device that has failed??? if so how do i check for each??
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It may or may not have a wire to supply power for a headlight. If it doesn't then there might just be one wire coming out from under the shroud that the pull starter is attached to. That wire gets grounded to stop the engine by grounding the ignition coil. Make sure the wire is disconnected. It might split into two, one going to the safeties on the control panel and one to the throttle control. Make sure they are disconnected and can't touch any metal.

If it does have separate wires coming out than you just need to make sure they are all disconnected and can't ground out.
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So this will bypass all safety features?? It doesn't have a headlight... so I have to take motor cover off and or coil cover off to see this?

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The Toro interlock system has a wire that goes from the handle bar levers to the ignition coil. Follow the wire down the bars to where it goes up to the coil and unplug them\it. Also, this machine looks to have been stored outdoors and unprotected. The ignition switch could be shorted out in the off position and stopping spark. Depending on the age, pre 1980's, the ignition points may need cleaning or replacement.

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Ok thx in will check this. I ll follow the wire and unplug it. Hopefully this solves the problem. I guess I could also check the ignition switch with a multimeter. I ll see if I get spark... if it's the actual ignition module do they still make them if so how expensive are they
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