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I was given an old YardMan Snowblower that just needed a pull cord to get running. The electric starter isn't working either. It has an 11 HP Briggs and Stratton engine so I asked for current parts info on the starter motor. I sent them a pic of the motor (which includes their part number)

and the same engine numbers that allowed me to retrieve the owner and service manuals from their site. Their response was the number I provided was not a Briggs and Stratton number and they would not help me unless I provided valid numbers. So I replied with a pic of the engine and a macro pic of the engine numbers I sent the result is...no reply.



What the heck are you supposed to do when they are unwilling to help?
Anyway, I figured out the issue with the starter motor. It will run fine in free air but has a dead spot and sometimes will not start unless the shaft is turned off the flat spot. It will only make attempt to turn over the when attached to the engine but stops on the flat spot. I took the starter apart and found a lot of wires have detached from the commutator. I'm going to take a crack at soldering them back on to the comm and see what happens.


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post #2 of 10 Old 07-12-2015, 03:09 PM
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you are not going to find parts for that starter. you will have to get a new 1. try e-bay. or you can PM ME. for a new 1. but it will not be cheap. ALOHA from the paradise city.

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https://www.google.com/#q=396469+starter

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I've been all over the internet looking for parts. It's how I found this site.
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You could always try an automotive electrical re-builder in your area to see if they might be able to repair the problem or if they have any ideas on a different supplier or way to go with it.

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You could always try an automotive electrical re-builder in your area to see if they might be able to repair the problem or if they have any ideas on a different supplier or way to go with it.
Thanks, Good idea. all I wanted from Briggs and Stratton was info on alternate part numbers, since they often change numbers, the least they could do is respond. They insisted I was not giving them a Briggs and Stratton engine number, even after I sent pics. Shame on them for not being helpful.
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I can't get the engine model number to work either. Perhaps clean everything up with a wire brush so we can see the numbers better.
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Took the motor to the only local starter/alternator repair shop. He really had no solution to offer. The wire in the 120 volt windings is a much lighter gauge than the 12 volt armature.
I'm thinking about converting to 12 volt and starting from a battery. The parts manual lists (693054) as the B&S part number. Those are all over ebay for $30-$40. There are two wires hanging from the engine. I think they are from an installed alternator (391595) that could charge the battery if I add a regulator (394890) or I could just bring out a battery and jump start it.
This black wire with white cap is from the alternator:

and this black wire which seems to go to ground.

Oddly B&S sent me an email today with links to the manuals (the ones I already had) and told me they could not help me pick out replacement parts.
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I brushed off the engine part number. I make it to be 252413-0727-01 86091111
Looks like the engine was made on September 11, 1986 on line 11 and it still works perfectly.
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No repair parts, other than the bendix, are available for that starter.
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The armature is no longer available but you can still by a complete starter for $100 or about $75 for a new one.

Briggs and Stratton 252413-0727-01 Parts Diagrams for Electric Starter
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