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Install modern tires/rims on 1960s 10d snowthro

Hi, New to forum. Been playing with 1960s ariens 10d series units for 40 years. Love them. i hope i can share my experiences and mods as much as I can.

I am trying to figure this one out at the moment. I have larger tires form a 10 year old sears donor. They are the newer style with a collar that fits over a shaft. So I want to mod them to fit on mine. Basically I am thinking of folatting the tapered rim so it will fit flist on the flat axle, then drill center hole and 3 lug nut holes.

Anybody done this. Since I dont have a machine shop, I am not sure I can hold the correct hole locations.

any feedback will be helpful.
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Hi Howley
Welcome to the Forum. I've adapted wheels to fit different pieces of equipment over the years. I have Toro wheels on one Ariens now. Drilling requires using a pin punch to "start" a hole, and then using increasing sized bits to get it right. Drift is not a problem if you don't try to start too big. The transverse hole in the axle can be approached the same way, but keep in mind you are now drilling into hardened steel. You will need good, sharp bits at slow speed with cutting oil to cool the bit. MH

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Only owning 10D series Ariens is quite a feat. Around here they are pretty scarce and rarely pop up on Craigslist.

I think you'd be pretty unhappy trying to convert the sears wheels "by hand" to fit your machine but I could be wrong.

What size are the tires and is/was there a wheel that fits your machine and that tire size ??

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Motorhead - i was thinking the same. There reason i was planning to do the change is because 1) I love doing mods to it 2) maybe improve speed forward and reverse 3) maybe improve performance

I will record the sizes and report back.

BTW - is there any advantage to putting larger tires on it? I do have snow hog on oem rims now. tires work ok.
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Motorhead - i was thinking the same. There reason i was planning to do the change is because 1) I love doing mods to it 2) maybe improve speed forward and reverse 3) maybe improve performance

I will record the sizes and report back.

BTW - is there any advantage to putting larger tires on it? I do have snow hog on oem rims now. tires work ok.
relative to traction the diameter of your wheels requires torque which gives a specific amount of stress to the drive train. Too large a tire would increase speed but may create too much stress. Small tires in loose snow I find have poor traction.
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Large tires with chains at slow speed gives the best traction in the deep stuff. MH

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So whats is the best overall set up. The OEM size tires with the snow hogs on them, or the larger tires with chains. Dont want to kill my drive way.
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You did say "overall" so IMHO I'd stick with the OEM size and Snow Hog or X Trac tires without chains.

But it's going to depend on what the surface is made of, dry, wet or slushy snow, weight of machine, ...
I really like no chains. My older machines with the lawn and garden type tread pretty much need chains but the new stuff or ones I've switched to Snow Hogs seem to work great for me without.

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IMHO I'd stick with the OEM size and Snow Hog or X Trac tires without chains
Ditto!

You might want to review my thread about changing over old solid tires to new pneumatic wheels and tires. I had little or no traction with the old tires and I was dead set against using chains in my situation with hard surfaces I didn't want to mar.
Also, by using the same sizes you'll maintain all the original clearances and attitude your machine originally came equipped with.

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